been gone for about 2 years, but im back for good.
yall still hoping to get in heaven tho right?
i did'nt know everybody was part of that 144,000, even if it is more than 144,000(did he mislead you?
Hello, Walter - or should we call you Norm or Jim, or even Susan?
You have impeccable timing. You Know - I've noticed that just one day after you've shut down your mailbag on e-watchman, you pop up back here again. Are you shutting down your site for good? What gives?
growedup
for a few weeks now i have wondered if my supervisor has been avoiding eating with me.
sometimes i will go out for lunch with a few coworkers and my supervisor will always decline the invitation.. today i caught them leaving for lunch without me.
i know it is unreasonable to expect to be invited with every single group that goes out... but when i looked at my supervisor while he was leaving he gave me the "deer in the headlights" look.
Elsewhere -
What you are describing is called "Harassment in the Workplace" and under US federal law it is ILLEGAL in any work environment with 12 or more employees! I have personal experience with this law, and I can tell you that it is extremely important to document EVERYTHING!
I am not a lawyer, so you will want to check with one to verify what I am telling you, but here is what I've learned:
1. An employee may claim "harassment" if any situation in the workplace creates a "hostile environment" which in turn, makes them feel "uncomfortable". The "uncomfortable" feeling does not necessarily have to affect the quality or quantity of the employee's work - only the level of "comfort" in the work environment which any reasonable person would also feel given the same set of circumstances.
2. "Harassment" does not have to come from only people above you - it can also come from peers and those who aspire to the position you hold. Therefore, anyone IN ADDITION to your supervisor who "shuns" you and causes you to feel "uncomfortable" is just as guilty as your supervisor. Be sure to document them as well.
3. If you ever think you may have to go to court over this, you will need to be able to show that you have confronted the harasser(s) and asked them to stop. Ideally, you want to do this with a witness. If you are not comforable in confronting your harasser(s), then you may report the problem to Human Resources, the harrasser(s)' supervisor(s), or your own supervisor (if he/she is not the actual harasser). Most often, anyone who intervenes on your behalf will want a written statement from you. If they don't ask you for one, ask them if you can put your complaint in writing - and be SURE to get a copy of your complaint. If they tell you "no" - they are in violation of the law. Insist that the signature of the person to whom you are complaining is on the document, as well as the date and time of the complaint. If you skip this step, your case could be thrown out of court, no matter how strong any other evidence you may have supporting your allegations may be.
4. Choosing to confront your harasser(s) either on your own or through an intermediary can be difficult. Many don't do it because they don't want their identity revealed more than they want the behavior to stop. The law is set up to protect your identity, however, most times the accused harasser(s) don't have much trouble figuring out who is accusing them. This is something to keep in mind when deciding whether to confront your harasser(s) or not.
5. The law allows the harasser(s) one chance at correcting the "environment", unless the incident is severe (such as in the case of rape, or something along those lines). As the "victim" you won't be privvy to the type of disciplinary action taken, but if the case ever goes to court and the company did not properly document the corrective action taken, they are in deep, deep doo doo. The good news is that the Human Resources department and/or the Harasser(s)' Supervisor(s) should let you know when your "environment" should be free of hostility.
6. HR and/or the harasser(s)' supervisor(s) must get back with you within a "reasonable" amount of time (i.e. within several common working days in which both the documenter(s) and the harasser(s) both work). The company is allowed to conduct their own investigation, however, they are to take your complaint seriously, and respond in a timely manner with their findings. If they do not, again, the company is in deep, deep doo doo.
7. The next part of the law deals with retaliation, and the court severely frowns upon any case where retaliation can be proven. If any employee is retaliated against because they have reported harassment, then the company can be held liable. Retaliation can include anything from demotions, schedule changes which do not affect others within the same department or class, changes in work assignments, to termination without well-documented cause. Also - any form of retaliation which takes place AWAY from company property and OFF company time can still be considered retaliation - for example - slashed tires, or provocation of a verbal or physical fight in any pubic or private place (i.e. Kingdom Halls or your own home).
8. You have the right to sue your company if the harassment does not stop even after you have reported it, if you have been retaliated against for reporting the harassment and your company allows the retaliation, or if your company does not find a way to create a more hospitable environment for the you - by essentially turning a blind eye to the harassing behavior. Your company can be held liable for a maximum of (I think) $3million (it might be $6million - I can't remember) per incident. In cases where companies do not have a written harassment policy and/or training and awareness program, I believe a victim can sue for as much in damages as they dare to ask - in other words, no cap on the damage award. ADDITIONALLY, the victim may personally sue their harasser(s) - which would make your boss one unhappy jw.
If I were you, I would contact a lawyer just to find out your rights and what you should do if this situation continues or worsens. Also, when/if it comes time to confront your harasser(s), I would choose to go through HR only and make a written complaint. This way there will be a record of your complaint, with names, dates, times, and specific details. (This is another good reason to keep a record of everything that happens before making the official complaint). The other reason it is good to contact your HR department is because if your supervisor decides to even passively-agressively retaliate against you in any way, your job will be protected because of your written complaint. Verbally asking your harasser(s) to stop without any written record does NOT protect you from retaliation unless you can prove you verbally asked your harasser(s) to stop. Tough to prove. Again, check with a lawyer to see what they would advise you to do.
You got this job because of the skills and other attributes you possess. It is not fair or LEGAL to be pushed out of that job - either through termination, transfer or demotion - or through the simple choice of quitting - just because one individual, or group of individuals makes it uncomfortable for you to be there. The law is on YOUR side - do all you can to make it work for you!
growedup
i was just reading another thread that mentioned something that knocked me over!
this thread mentions the existence of jw prep schools!
can anyone enlighten me on this topic?
Wow! Did a search and look what I found! Maybe others are aware of this, but I'm not! The name of this JW school is "New System School, Inc." Here is the page which cites their history from the url:
http://www.newsystemschool.org/schoolinfo.htm
HISTORY OF NEW SYSTEM SCHOOL, INC.
New System School, Inc., was created for the purpose of helping those who have found the public school system, or environment, detrimental to their children's education. The school was started by Phil and Linda Rial in North Carolina in 1980. In 1985 the school was incorporated in Missouri, and associated corporations have since been formed in many states. We have students and faculty in 35 states, several foreign countries...and we're still growing!
New System School, Inc., is an organization of parents who wish to be very closely involved in their children's educational process. They have made legal arrangements to be recognized as a private religious school. This is not a home school satellite situation, but a private religious school with a faculty and non-institutional campus arrangement.
We are a non-profit, private religious school created for the children of Jehovah's Witnesses. We are not sponsored by any local congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses or The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, Inc. of New York .
Hmmmm....verrrrry interesting. Do ya suppose they are sponsored by The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, or maybe The Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses?
i was just reading another thread that mentioned something that knocked me over!
this thread mentions the existence of jw prep schools!
can anyone enlighten me on this topic?
Ox-
dunno - but sure would love to find out!
Anyone? Anyone? Buhler?!
growedup
i was just reading another thread that mentioned something that knocked me over!
this thread mentions the existence of jw prep schools!
can anyone enlighten me on this topic?
I was just reading another thread that mentioned something that knocked me over! This thread mentions the existence of JW prep schools! Can anyone enlighten me on this topic? Are they pre-schools, high schools, colleges? Are they located all over the world, or is this the only one that exists? What do these schools teach? Are they funded by the JW's, or by the families of the students? I had no idea these things existed! I swear, I learn something new every single day on this board!!
Here is the reference posted by "Hawaiiandays"
Sacremento State Prep School in Sac, California, a JW school
Thanks in advance for the insight!
growedup
look at the newest items.
california.
anaheim: rosario rios villagomez (51, husband freddy) died after refusing a blood transfusion at martin luther king hospital in early 1999 and a watchtower representative blamed her gallstones instead of the bleeding+ http://ajwrb.org/victims/index.shtml arroyo: tony mendez died 6-6-95 at arroyo grande community hopsital after refusing blood transfusions + http://ajwrb.org/victims/index.shtml cahoga park: brendon hood (4 years old) died late january or early february [year not supplied] after parents refused blood transfusions + http://ajwrb.org/victims/index.shtml chino hills & chino north: steve morales a former bethelite was convicted for serial rape * (courtesy of kent steinhaug and verified in news account) costa mesa: on/about june 2001 a 17-year-old girl was arrested after she drove by on a bike & threw a homemade bomb into a kingdom hall in the 2200 block of canyon drive about 9:20 pm though it bounced so that there were no injuries or property damage downey: downey north congregation: gary l kreider (in late 40s) hanged himself 12-96 # fresno: lenae martinez (12) died 9-22-93 at valley children's hospital agreeing with her parents in refusing blood transfusion gridley: alleged pedophilia* .
Wow, Hawaiian! This is great information! Thanks so much for sharing it!
growedup
P.S. Welcome to the board!!!
.....in case i missed ya.......welcome everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Minimus!
LOVE the outward showing of affection!
Me thinks you need a new title, like "Ambassador to the Newbies", "Welcoming Committee Chairman" or "Finishing School Graduate (with Honors, of course!)"
growedup
new jehovahs-witness.com message board opens .
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ok, ok...probably not really hot news 'cause you already knew about it but i've got to add a few posts haven't i to get things started
outnfree -
Thanks! Guess I missed that one!
growedup
new jehovahs-witness.com message board opens .
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ok, ok...probably not really hot news 'cause you already knew about it but i've got to add a few posts haven't i to get things started
Ok! I feel like an idiot! Simon, will you please draw me a picture?! I have NO idea what you are talking about!
Thanks!
growedup of the what-did-I-miss class
i asked this several months ago so thought i would try again.
anyone on here from missouri or maybe arkansas, i have attended in doniphan, poplar bluff mo and corning ark
I lived in Liberty/KC for about five years, but never attended any Kingdom Halls there. Some of the nicest people in the world live in Missouri!
Good luck on your quest!
growedup
