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  Has anyone had a jw hack into their email/tablet/phone etc to spy?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i note stillin has had a recent problem with this.

  i also know of two cases were an elder went through a brothers phone to get dirt on him.

  and another were a sisters email was hacked into to get dirt on her.. in both cases apparently it was for their spiritual protection (!

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  hoser, that does not surprise me. As EE would say, SMDH Sad but true.

  There was a guy here who the elders suspected of adultery (they were right), and they stalked him for a long time, literally sitting in cars 24-7. watching his house, and following him until he was finally caught. My parents told me about it, not realizing how it looked through my eyes. Umm, that's not only wrong (ie, none of their business), but it's illegal.

  I guess it must come under the heading of "Theocratic Warfare"TM, so in these cases, it's okay to 'break Caesar's Law'. *puke*

  xx
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  This is what leadership looks like

  by Pistoff in

  1. social
  2. current

  since the day pope francis told catholics to stop obsessing about abortion and gay marriage, and get to the business of helping the poor, i have been afraid for his life.. in one statement, he pierced 2 sacred cows of catholic and evangelical thought, and he has not stopped.. he has lectured the world on real evils, mentioning capitalism in particular as a system that has left billions in desperate poverty.. he has now said that global warming threatens the world, particularly the poor, and is calling on the world to change it's lifestyle to save the planet.. i can't remember ever, in my entire life, when someone in as powerful a position as the pope, actually speaks out loud and in public the actual truth of the world's environment and calling the world to action, without regard for the consequences.. hard line catholics don't like him; fox news hates him, one pundit telling him to leave science to the scientists (of course, fox news doesn't leave global warming to the scientists) and today this from greg gutfield, fox news:.

  "the most dangerous person on the planet is someone who is seeking strange new respect from their adversaries.

  and that is what the pope is doing, said gutfeld, implying that the recognition of the existence of man-made climate change is fundamentally at odds with catholicism.

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  The Church needed a good PR Pope. Seriously, folks, it's the Vatican. One guy doesn't come in, snap his fingers, and change policy. Also, do a bit of background investigation online, or search the threads here, before you decide you like him.
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  Has anyone had a jw hack into their email/tablet/phone etc to spy?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i note stillin has had a recent problem with this.

  i also know of two cases were an elder went through a brothers phone to get dirt on him.

  and another were a sisters email was hacked into to get dirt on her.. in both cases apparently it was for their spiritual protection (!

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  talesin

  EDITED ????????????????
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  Well, well, the Huff Post has an article about the JW saying "mentally Diseased apostates"

  by nonjwspouse in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's good to see a widely read site such as the huff post link to this article, and below it are 5 more links to similar articles .

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  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/28/jehovahs-witness-magazine_n_985479.html.

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  talesin

  This is from 2011.
  
  When the story was first published in the UK (Guardian or Independent?), we did a bit of a writing campaign here on the forum. A bunch of us spent a day or so writing in to the comments section of the newspaper...... it was wild! Folks from here, commenting, with JWS denying and scrambling to cover up the heinous nature of disfellowshipping.
  
  I checked, and the comments are no longer available for reading, which is really too bad.

  I have to say that GB and Australia are far ahead of Canada, and the US, in their investigations and condemnation of the Jehovah's Witnesses cult.
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  Being shunned only increases my certainty that the WBT$ is a cult

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well, i don't wanna rant too much but sometimes things cut you don't they.. a family member had a get together for the family, jw and non jw and of course i wasn't invited being da'd.. i understand why they couldn't invite me but it just made me think.

  in normal society this wouldn't happen.

  i'd have been there.. the shunning is so unnatural and damaging.

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  Thank you, steve2, much appreciated. xx
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  Well, well, the Huff Post has an article about the JW saying "mentally Diseased apostates"

  by nonjwspouse in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's good to see a widely read site such as the huff post link to this article, and below it are 5 more links to similar articles .

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  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/28/jehovahs-witness-magazine_n_985479.html.

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  This story is from 2011.

  At the time, we had a big push on the forum ........ and quite a few of us wrote in to the comments section of the original newspaper that had the story (was it The Guardian or the Independent? It was in England). We spent an intense 48 hours or so, answering people's questions regarding JWS and shunning, and refuting the JWS who commented on the story.

  The comments are no longer there to be read, but wow, what an anti-Witness we gave! :D "Worldly" people ARE interested in the JWS - the average person is shocked, when the reality of the WTS policies is exposed in the mainstream media.
  
  I'd like to see more group efforts like this - exJWs offering constructive criticisms on JW youtube vids or newspaper articles, and refuting JW claims in a logical fashion.

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  Has anyone had a jw hack into their email/tablet/phone etc to spy?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i note stillin has had a recent problem with this.

  i also know of two cases were an elder went through a brothers phone to get dirt on him.

  and another were a sisters email was hacked into to get dirt on her.. in both cases apparently it was for their spiritual protection (!

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  talesin

  I made a comment, but it's *disappeared*.

  Looking at an account that is left open, or has no password, is not hacking. Knowing your relative/friend's password and using it to read their private correspondence is not hacking.

  Hacking is 'breaking in' to another person's account by using your technological know-how. I doubt this happens a lot in JW world..

  
  If you leave your diary on the counter, and someone opens it and reads it, that is one thing. But if your diary is in a locked box, and they pick the lock so that they can read it, that is another. And that's the difference between taking advantage of someone who is not protecting their privacy by proper use of passwords, and hacking their account

  It's wrong (of course!), but it's not illegal to read someone's email if they left it open, or don't have it password-protected. That is completely different from hacking, which I assume would be illegal in many jurisdictions.
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  JWs now distribute Christian Rock (soft) music videos!

  by freein2004 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/qxcft4hbyam.

  this is from the june broadcast.

  it was introduced during the last ten minutes or so of the broadcast.

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  Comments on the video at this link: Song: I Won't Forget You (I wanted to comment and ask if this was meant for disfellowshipped persons)
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdSfTk-idjc
  
  "I just got baptized ........ I am eleven."
  
  "Congratulations! I just got baptized, too, and I am eleven."

  :'(
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  Flash Mob at the Kingdom Hall

  by wisdomfrombelow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  wouldn't it be interesting if dozens of people showed up at a kingdom hall as part of a flash mob, not being disorderly, but to make a statement.

  maybe all raising their hands on a particular question and giving a "real comment" instead of restating the paragraph.

  or they could all leave if when one of the paragraphs says "internet bad...ignorance good".

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  There's a park next door to their District Convention (are they calling it something different now?) site in my city.
  
  Can't get a meet-up started in this city, though, let alone a flash mob.

  Perhaps one could be done at a convention in a locale that has more folks, like New England or Texas?

  Just a thought ...
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  are ministryideaz apostates?

  by sneekyapostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  are ministry ideaz book binders apostates cos its plastered all over the net haha?.

  ministryideaz.com - meeting & service supply.

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  BroMac, you mean this? (EDIT, well, lol, your vid is showing now!, but I'll leave this link up - it's their 'channel')

  
  
  https://www.youtube.com/user/myministryideaz