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  Blasphemy

  by ClassAvenger in

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  i was asked how come the bible says that god forgives blasphemy to the father and the son, but not the holy spirit.

  if they all are god, what makes the person of the holy spirit more important regarding blasphemy than the father or the son.

  sorry, i don't know much about the bible, but i'm trying to learn here, alright?

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  Mizpah,
  

  There does not even seem to have been a consensus among Christians from the word GO either, never mind modern scholars.

  Paul vs Jerusalem, Paul vs Simon Peter, Apollos vs Paul, the sect of Nicolaius, Athanasius vs Arius, Greek vs Roman Church, then the reformation where apostates and heretics flourished. (What? Protestantism is in line with God's will?) Apostates all!! Are you a protestant apostasising? Are you an ex JW? Are you ex RC? What's the difference.

  There is no consensus either among Christians or scholars, except when it suits them. You just pick the sect or cult that suits the way you choose to see things. And don't say your particular view is backed up in the Babble, cause they all do too...

  They are all charlatans and gangsters.

  The good news that all great religions bring " and which so many have been glad to hear, zealous to preach, but reluctant, apparently, to demonstrate, is that God is love, that he can be, and is to be loved, and that ALL without exception are his children."

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  'Divisions' in the EXJW World: Thoughts, Please!

  by lisaBObeesa in

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  2. friends

  doesnt it seem that the people who have been out of the jws for a while have, for the most part, divided into two political parties?

  we have the group who is pro-trying-to-bringing-down-the-wt and the group that is anti-trying-to-bring-down-the wt.

  of course we have a bunch of independents, too.

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  Of course this world will have divisions like the real world.

  We were only unified as witlessness because it was imposed from the top and we learned how to thought-stop. Since we are no longer controlled on every detail of course conflicts will come through.

  this is healthy.

  Even early Christianity was divided and torn apart by controversy. Ain't nuthin' new.

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  Someone please tell me this pro paedophilia site is a hoax

  by ignored_one in

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  2. child-abuse

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  sounds like that nambla site.. .

  (link removed, see below)

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  I WOULD NOT EVEN CLICK ON THE LINK!!!!!

  We all hate this filth, but are you aware that in some states and certain countries even visiting such a site is ILLEGAL? So if you visited the site (UK residents note too), you can expect a knock on the door from federal agents when they get to your internet address in an investigation. Remember just a click transfers your details to every site visited.

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  Jehovah's Witnesses asking woman to pay legal costs in sexual abuse lawsuit

  by ignored_one in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://canadaeast.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20030723/cpn/20587021&cachetime=15 .

  jehovah's witnesses asking woman to pay legal costs in sexual abuse lawsuit.

  toronto (cp) - a woman who received $5,000 in damages after accusing the canadian wing of the jehovah's witnesses of negligence over their handling of allegations of sexual abuse is being asked to pay for part of the religious group's legal costs in the case.

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  I am happy to give some cash to help here.

  Dammit there are 8, 000 posting on this site. Poor Vicki will be ruined if we don't give her some practical support other than "we love you."

  How to do this? Where do I send a donation?

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  Making a Will.....

  by razorMind in

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  does anyone have any info on how to go about doing this?

  i don't own a home or anything much, nor any type of huge estate with precious valuables.

  i have no idea of the cost or the process.

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  If you die intestate, a lot of what is left goes on lawyers' fees, deciding who what how much etc..

  I made a will when I was diagnosed with my heart condition. Left everything to my non JW sibling.

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  Would you?

  by donkey in

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  2. friends

  scenario 1: if you could guarantee that you would not get caught would you steal a million dollars?.

  scenario 2: if you could guarantee that you would not get caught would you steal a million dollars from the wtbs?.

  scenario 3: if you could guarantee that you would not get caught would you steal a million dollars from a bank?.

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  I should be delighted to have the opportunity to steal a million from WBTS.

  They stole half my life, and a proper career. Then I would use the money like Jesus - maybe pay for clean water for kids in Africa (rather than yet another BEFFEL) whatever; just helping in a practical way.

  Anyway - are we not entitled to be forgiven 77 x 7. Surely the Witlessness wd forgive my first sin against them?

  All the other thefts would have a negative impact on someone so I would not do them.

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  Old Publications

  by Ariell in

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  2. friends

  does anyone know if the society keeps a library of publications dating from the late 1800's into the early 1900's and whether or not bethelites have access to them?

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  Since the WBTS claims to be a future Government, why don't they release documents after fifty years like everyone else?

  After all if what the apostates say is not true, why not let everyone see it for themselves on a website of unedited texts?

  I remember when I wanted a WT from 1920 - the only section missing in our extensive KH library. The PO said they were told to send that volume back to Bethel years ago. I asked could I write for a photocopy of the article I wanted (the 1919 resurrection ) he said that the policy was that all current literature was enough for anyone to gain spiritual maturity.

  Can any one post the page in the WT of '16 '17, where they suggested buying war bonds, or the page where readers were encouraged to pray for victory?

  According to the will of Russell, to be a member of the "GB" one had to agree with truth as presented in the Watch Tower. When most of the committee disagreed with these two suggestions they were ousted over a technicality, that had very little legal basis. They only declined to fight in court because of the scripture that says one should not go to law with a brother. (But that is a digression ) CAN ANY ONE POST THE QUOTES?
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  Can you imagine the cleanup after Armageddon?

  by freedom96 in

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  2. friends

  all the witnesses hope for the end of the world as we know it, and how they will clean up the earth.

  i wonder if they really consider the magnitude of what that would involve.. some of them talk about taking over someone else's house.

  let's take that alone for an example.. they would walk up to a house that they like, and have to claim it for themselves.

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  The book "The Nations shall know that I am Jehovah - How?" suggested that the bodies might be disposed of by means of 'anti-matter' - whatever the ignorant non scientist writer imagined from his Sci-fi movies. How would this work?

  We await NEW LIGHT!!
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  Dress Code

  by Tron in

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  i stumbled on to my wife km and started to read it,wow thers alot of crap in there huh,but there was one topic about your dress atire,i cant believe that some people could have a gang of freaks locked away in a building tell them what not to wear such as faddish or trendy fashion ,are jw's so mentally weak.

  if there are any jw's here attending meetings wake up and smell the coffee your wasting your life.. tron.

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  What happened to the freedom that belongs to the christ?

  Oh Yeah - when you become a Witless, you are freed from what they say is Babylonish bondage. (Oh! honey pass the chains!) Now a beard your underwear contraception everything is controled.

  Wasn't Fred Fanz a rebel against the bearded generation?

  What about those peoples of the world who walk naked without shame?

  God has seen every fashion and style and cock and vagina under the sun. They think we all have to wear american clothes from GAP?
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  3000 Indian Student riot because they are stopped from Cheating!

  by searchfothetruth in

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  2. current

  now i know where i was going wrong with my exams!

  3,000 indian law students .

  riot over new ban on cheating.

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  The same thing happened a few years ago when they clamped down on cheating for medical exams.