Posts by RoadDoctor

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Disagreements between elders

by Gadget in

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there seems to be a lot of local differences between what witnesses are allowed to do and what they aren't.

i'm in a situation where elders in one area are incouraging a course of action, and elders in another area are totally against it, saying it is a disfellowshipping offence.

anybody been in a situation where elders disagreed like this?

I loved the scenario my brother was involved in last year. I had been out of the borg for about 3 years at this point. He was driving his brand new VW Jetta, and crashed into a bridge embankment, causing a femur fracture that sent him to a trauma center and surgery to repair. The Pennsylvania State Police came into the ER that night and wanted to speak with me. They said, can you inform your parents that we found several broken bottles of vodka and 4 cases of beer in his trunk, that we will need to talk to them and him when he is out of surgery and able to talk. This just tickled me pink! The next day one of his friends from another cong. stopped by to see him, and I brought the issue up to my brother in front of them, about the alcohol. (They were all 17-19 years old). Well, amazingly, about 20 different friends started to visit him. (Hmm wonder if that was to keep him from spilling his guts)

The story was my brother got 2 worldly friends from work to buy him alcohol. He in turn would go to these "JW parties" where the parents werent home and resell the alcohol at a higher price, everyone would get sh*tfaced and then the wandering fingers (and other body parts) would begin. My brother being the good little dub that he was, ratted on everyone. Not only did this involve 5 different congregations, 2 different circuits, but also 4 elder's kids, 1 of them being the son of a PO! This delighted me even more. It was amazing to see how all 5 congregations got together with about 6 different JC's, and the punishments handed out. Some were privately reproved, some were publicly reproved, and one was disfellowshipped. My brother got off with a private reproof, since he had to deal with being a rat and losing his friends.

It sure is a crazy thing when you have elder's kids involved and other congregations!

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Were you baptized too young?

by sandy in

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2 peter 2.

22there has befallen them the thing spoken of in the true proverb, the dog turns back to his own vomit, and, the sow is washed only to wallow again in the mire..

i remember when i was going over my baptismal questions the elder spouted off this scripture to me.. looking back at it i wonder how could he be such a moron!

RoadDoctor

I got dunked at age 14. I only did it because all of my other friends were taking the plunge, and I didnt want them to "one-up" me. Another reason was when you got baptized, you were allowed privileges. I got to do the microphones, work the sound system etc, it kept me awake during the meetings. Always an ulterior motive.

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Aortic Stenosis

by Blueblades in

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i just got back from the doctor,he say the echocardiogram reveals aortic stenosis,narrowing of the valve.however,i have no symptoms of this,and so he is scheduling me for a visit to the cardiologist.. i have done some research on the heart and this problem,in the long run valve replacement is usually the way to go.. i need to wait and see what the cardiologist will recommend.that's it for now.. blueblades, trying not to be anxious.

RoadDoctor

Blueblades... I wish you the best of luck and fast healing in what you have to go through. Not to minimize any health condition someone may have, valve replacement really is one of the better ways to go and has very few consequences/side effects so to say. It is pretty common these days, however, I'm not sure if they still use pigs heart valves or mechanical ones now.

Take care and please let us know how you are doing!

Josh

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Class Distinction Within The JW Community?

by Latin assassin from Manhattan in

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has anyone noticed that jws who appear to be higher up on the 'socio-economic' ladder get special treatment at the kh?

no matter how many khs i've visited, i've noticed that jws who are not well off socially/financially/physically are treated with less respect/dignity than those with a business of their own, or just a higher quality of life.

i've been to many 'gatherings' where jws filter themselves out according to race or socio-economic standing.

RoadDoctor

How did I miss this post by Mary? My god, you nailed it right on the head. I dont know if I've ever heard it explained better. Thank you so much, I plan on sending this to the folks. (yes I am a dick)

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WARNING TO WATCHTOWER: BACK OFF!

by Swan in

warning to watchtower: back off!.

i am told that you folks at bethel monitor sites like these.

if so, then you know who i am and you know who my family is.

RoadDoctor

Not to sound rude, but as far as my immediate family and the WTBTS, the society can keep em. I have no good for those who would put a religion based on pure speculation over their own son. So I say the hell with them all, and move on. Because I know there is no damn way I would ever let my parents back into my life. The society could come out tomorrow and say "We are a bunch of lying fruits and we have done nothing but misled you all for so long...." the people would leave. Why should we accept these ones who have shunned us for so long back into our lives so easily? Doesnt the society preach forgive and forget? They preach it but dont practice it, I dont really think they could honestly expect us to do so either.

Josh

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What's the funniest gag / stunt you saw 'in service'?

by DFWnonJW in

just curious here <eg>.

i've heard of plenty of teenagers knock-n-running but that's rather on the dull side.

so what's the funniest bit of slapschtick you've seen or heard of witnesess pulling while getting in the time quota?

RoadDoctor

Did anybody else ever just make their literature "dissapear"...whether it be the trash can, out the window at 70 mph, etc? I placed a lot of magazines that way. I never used to present/offer books in the bore to door ministry, I felt bad about throwing away something that cost money like that.

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brown paper on the mirrors at assembly

by freein89 in

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this happened in the mid 80's at a circuit assembly in wisconsin.

the "brothers" decided they had the solution to the long lines for the ladies room.

they went in there and covered the mirrors with brown paper.

RoadDoctor

I always enjoyed walking to the other side of Veterans stadium and up to level 700 to find a men's bathroom that had not been converted over to a Woman's bathroom. Thus, this is where I took up pissing in the parking lot.

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"The Practice" Blood and a Jehovahs Witness

by plmkrzy in

tonight channel 7 (abc) 11:00 p.m. pacific time.

tonight on the practice, the attorney's are going to trial to battle against a jehovah's witness who is refusing to allow a daughter (i think it's a daughter) to have a blood transfusion.

they are arguing that the victim is not a jw and the jws are interfering where they do not belong.. i dont know if this is a repeat or not.

RoadDoctor

Where was the congregation liason committee? If that situation arises, they have 2 elders on a liason committee at the hospitals to prevent the things happening like it did on the show. Either way, if the girl was not baptized, and having an abortion, defending clients who have done the same, it seems to me she has not professed the so-called faith of the Jehovahs Witnesses.

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What's the funniest gag / stunt you saw 'in service'?

by DFWnonJW in

just curious here <eg>.

i've heard of plenty of teenagers knock-n-running but that's rather on the dull side.

so what's the funniest bit of slapschtick you've seen or heard of witnesess pulling while getting in the time quota?

RoadDoctor

I've always been the rebellious type so I have done quite a few things that are generally frowned upon by the borg. I remember that in field service, I would hate being assigned to the territory where I lived, for fear of seeing classmates and people i knew (which was nearly everyone being in the local fire dept.). One day, I got put in a group w/ this regular (or irregular lol) pioneer which was smack in the middle of town where I lived. So I pretended to knock on the doors and record "not at home"...she was amazed at the amount of "not at homes" she'd have to make a 2nd visit to.

One day it was 100 degrees (typical august weather). My friends and I paired up in my Grand Am and went thru town. We bought these huge super soakers, filled them with urine and cold water. Needless to say pedestrians and cars w/ windows down got a rain on their day.

This event happened actually at a district convention. 2 of my friends and I (who also were on their way out of the borg like me) used to work the first aid station. My last year in (1998) we got put on the golf cart ambulance that they had at the Vet in Filthydelphia. Well, it was always fun to take the ambulance out of the stadium and go up to the vendors and get food and cigarettes. Imagine walking by a Jehovahs witness ambulance at a convention and see the medics smoking. We had to carry lots of gum to cover that odor up.

Josh

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new member

by heather_66350 in

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hey everyone.

im new here.

i was invited here by coldredrain.

RoadDoctor

Hello everyone, I just joined this site (after a few days of technical problems lol). Just wanted to say Hi to everyone from this wonderful (yet oh so boring) state of Madness, I mean Maryland. I'm so glad there is a site such as this where people who used to be part of the cult can vent, talk, or joke around. Take care.