Phizzy - It baffles me. I guess they must just ignore anything that conflicts with their myths.
DD - How do you KNOW that 30,000 years is inaccurate?
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How do Bible believers get around this question.... ??
by Phizzy inbible believers of the literalist persuasion like the wt and other weird fundies actually believe the bible stories and chronology and therefore believe that adam and eve were the first humans.. those of us of european ancestry all contain within our dna a percentage of neanderthal dna.
the neanderthals died out 30,000 years ago.. how will the wt and other bible literalists (an untenable position by the way) get around the facts ?.
i suppose by simply ignoring the facts, as with the flood of noah and a myriad other things ?.
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What is the purpose of Field Service??
by quellycatface inthe so used to say it was life saving work.i wasn't convinced.it was soul destroying in the area i lived.i didn't want to be so cynical as to think, it was just to gain converts, therefore more money but it certainly looks that way now..
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bemused
Training for the world slow walking championship?
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New Light - Good for goose... gander SOL
by Zoos inwhen jws accept new light they must, by default, accept that what they were teaching was false.
they allow themselves the luxury of error so long as it is in the pursuit of better understanding.. .
you would think this scenario demands that allowance be made for other religions with false teachings, but alas, no.
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bemused
Also, if you accept new light, don't you also have to accept that there may well be more new light in future, ie accept that some of the current doctrines are probably wrong?
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Progess!
by Jon Preston inwell my wife asked me loint blank..."do you wanna be a witness anymore?
" and i told her no.. .
we then went into 1914 and shunning and 1975 and she said sheswondered many times about it.. anyways she said "so what do we do now?
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bemused
Wow, that's great news!
It does make me wonder though how many more couples are out there, both with doubts but worried about sharing them.
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I'm not trying to brag, but being an EXJW is awesome!!! Status Update-
by Coffee House Girl inhello jwn!
i don't get to check in here or comment as often as i would like because i have been working so hard at school...but i just have to share my news in hopes that newbees can see that taking the leap to enroll in higher education is worth it-.
i am graduating this spring with a bachelor degree in art history, minor anthropology...many people (including nonjw's have given me flack for choosing a "dead end" career path) but since leaving the watchtower organization's group-think mentality and "leaning on my own understanding" instead... i decided to say fuck everyone else's opinion...i am going to pursue my passion to work in a museum as a curator or archivist-.
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bemused
Well done! I've always been convinced that you have to study what you enjoy and not what might be most 'useful'.
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Who will win the premier league (footy or 'soccer') mine is liverpool fc
by Jon Preston inwhat a year it had been!!!
liverpool fc (forgive me for this losts one-sidedness) have gone leaps and bounds and luck to reach secknd spot but without games in hand to man city....i must say an air or cl against ac milan is in the air.
and lfc have a real shot at winning.
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bemused
Whoever wins, the best title race for many years!
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Who will win the premier league (footy or 'soccer') mine is liverpool fc
by Jon Preston inwhat a year it had been!!!
liverpool fc (forgive me for this losts one-sidedness) have gone leaps and bounds and luck to reach secknd spot but without games in hand to man city....i must say an air or cl against ac milan is in the air.
and lfc have a real shot at winning.
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bemused
It's got to be either City or Chelsea for me. Liverpool just don't have the strength in depth to cope with injuries, suspensions etc. If I had to choose one, I'd go for Chelsea as they have the best manager and, in Hazard, the best player in the Premiership.
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Arguments to prove Noah's Ark story is just a myth
by will-be-apostate ini've been thinking for a while about the topic mentioned in the title and came to the conclusion that the flood story from the bible provides a very good starting point for proving the bible wrong.. in the following paragraphs i'll be only presenting ideas and potentially logic errors, and possible answer.
i didn't do any serious research yet, for in order to answer various questions a good base in specific branch of science is required.. according to the bible (the internet) the volume of the ark was 137.16 m * 22.86 m * 13.716 m = 43006 cubic meters (roughly).
if we was to subtract the volume of the interior structure (elements like walls, stairs, etc.
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bemused
Here's a few:
1. Where did all the water come from? There isn't enough water on earth to flood up to the top of mount Everest.
2. Egyptian civilisation, for which there are detailed continuous historical records, pre-dates and post-dates the supposed flood.
3. Why didn't all the fish die? Neither salt water nor freshwater fish would have survived in the dliuted saline solution resulting from the flood.
4. How do you explain the diversity of human races (african, caucasian, aboriginal etc) in just a few thousand years? Human evolution isn't that quick.
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I did it !!!!
by snare&racket in7 years ago i started on a path i had long ago given up on as impossible.
i met with my elders and told them i could not justify carrying on as a jw.
i went and got my high school qualifications and my higher education diploma (a levels with distinction) in just 12 months.
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bemused
That's fantastic! Doing medical training when younger and with family support is tough enough but your performance is absolutely outstanding.
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hello
by fakefading inhello my fellow "apostates".
just wanted to say hi.
i'm still in the borg but mentally out.
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bemused
nmfr - TTATT stands for The Truth about The Truth.
Welcome fakefading. Not everyone on here is an apostate - there are a few people like me who have never been a JW but are concerned about JW friends and relatives. (A close relative of mine converted some years back and I use this site as ammunition for any discussions we get into.) As a never-in I'm not sure I can give you much advice, but what I would say from my reading of the postings on this site is that a slow fade may be the least painful exit route and give you the best chance of maintaining contact with family and friends.