Posts by bemused

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Decided to sign up...

by campaign of hate in

so i decided to sign up after many years of lurking.

started researching after finding out about ray franz, which inevitably brought me to this site.. i'm still well and truly inn, but don't want to give any information out, i'm sure you guys know the reasons.. since "jay double you .

org" came online, there has been a definite sense of hysteria with everyone who is "inn", and i get a feeling it's going to get a whole lot crazier as the years press on.. one point i would like to raise is that i feel, without a doubt, that 2034 is going to be the new finish line.

bemused

Welcome CoH (interesting user name!). I was never a JW (some relatives are though) but I can relate to your point about neutral feelings. I was brought up a catholic and one day as a young adult realised that I didn't believe any of it. However I didn't feel mad and I understood that my parents thought they were doing the right thing by bringing me up in that faith. It just wasn't for me so I simply stopped practising.

I understand that as a JW the demands can be greater and the anti-education stance of the GB has affected the lives of many on this site, but I'm glad that you are not overly stressed about things. I appreciate that ceasing being a witness can be trickier than leaving the catholic faith (potential shunning etc) but I hope that you are able to manage that without too much personal damage.

You might be right about 2034 although my hunch is that the GB will never again commit to a date. In this internet age they wouldn't recover when it passed uneventfully.

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New to the forum

by Gone and forgotten in

first i want to say that i really appreciate this forum.

most other places i've seen are nothing but filled with spite and hate.

this site is reasonable and supportive...thank you for that!.

bemused

Wow, that's one eventful life you've had to date. I'm pleased that you have found happiness and I hope that you continue to enjoy this site.

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Is Watchtower's stance against education only for North American witnesses

by wannaexit in

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i was reading on a european ex jw forum where some feel that watchtower's railing against higher education is primarily for north america issue.

this is due that many in usa and canada leave home to leave on campus.

it was mentioned that many young european jw attend universities and its not frowned on.. i found this odd because i heard what morris and losch said about education in italy.

bemused

From my (admittedly limited) exposure to this topic, I was under the impression that UK JWs are very much against any further education that involves living away from the family home.

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How would you respond?!?!?

by DATA-DOG in

an eldub recently said, " sure, we have changed many beliefs in the last 100 years, but christendom has had 2,000 years to clean up their act an they haven't done it.".

this was prompted by today's wt session which mentioned nathan knorr's eager acceptance of rutherford's refinements concerning the 1,260 days.

of course, he also said that he can't really keep up with everything.

bemused

I would probably respond by pointing out that JWs are part of Christendom, or is he claiming that JWs are not Christians?

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This weeks service meeting! More craziness.....

by stuckinarut2 in

so this weeks service meeting is so full of "crazy".

a whole 15 min part devoted to trying to indoctrinate everyone on how to "explain our beliefs on 1914".

then another 15 min part called "a tool to help us explain our beliefs about 1914".

bemused

The more I learn about this religion (I was never in) the weirder it gets. So, if I've understood this right, the whole 1914 thing depends on an interpretation of a dream which it is claimed that someone who died millennia ago had? This is beyond crazy. If my relatives swallow this stuff then I just despair.

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Will the GB use the on going conflict with Muslim extremists as a sign of the end being near?

by adjusted knowledge in

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i haven't read over much of the recent articles in the last decade from the wt.

i wonder if they will mention muslim extremists and use that fear as a control mechanism on their members.

i have a feeling they will resist mentioning islam specifically.

bemused

Logically they should - much bigger threat to their religion than Russia, UN etc. However I agree, there's no way they'd dare do it.

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Russian authorities nab Jehovahs Witnesses for dumping waste

by Tenacious in

not sure if anyone knew about this:.

http://rapsinews.com/judicial_news/20141107/272536636.html.

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bemused

They do that every time they push a magazine through the letter box.

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Why can't I just leave?

by Trapped in JW land in

some of you may know my situation.

i'm still going to meetings, but i am a closet apostate and homosexual i. only keep going to meetings to please my family and some friends.

i guess i could tell my mom i no longer want to be a jehovah's witness and stop going to meetings, but i'm too scared to do it.

bemused

Whether you say something now or later is your call. The only advice I would give is to definitely go for the living on campus option. You will be much freer and able to live as you wish.

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What should the WBT$ do to get on track?

by punkofnice in

it looks as if the gb are blundering around and really showing themselves up for the buffoons they are.

all the stupidity about tight trousers is laughable and if the general public were to see these selfmportant cult leaders blabbing this stuff then the last shred of their credibility would be destroyed.........perhaps.. the wbt$ seem to have dug themselves into a deep pit of no escape with their lies, new light(tm), paedophile protection and all the other nauseating peripherals they have.. we also suspect that the wbt$ have their spies here because they are either predictable or get ideas form forums like this.. so!

are you listening watchtower(r)?

bemused

I'm with Spectre on this one. If there are any WT representatives reading this, you really need to get the GB out and about as much as possible, to show the human face of the organization and the sincerity of its leaders. Don't make it too scripted though, that would make them seem stilted and wouldn't display the warmth of the indiividuals. However you need to give the GB a guide, so here are a few topics that they can ad-lib on:

The worst subjects to do well in at school

How to spot a homosexual

Appropriate clothing for walking the dog

Acceptable sexual positions (in marriage only, naturally)

Which dancing makes Jehovah saddest - Latin American or Ballroom?

Hope this helps.

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That is what New Light is all about

by FatFreek 2005 in

sometimes small children can see through stupid.. .

len miller.

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bemused

At a wedding a friend of one of my in-relatives was doing his best to convert me so I challenged him about changes in the generation teaching, which led him to talk about 'new light'. I said 'so everything you now say is true could be replaced by new light in the future?'. He just stood there staring like a rabbit in the headlights, so I headed to the bar.