Posts by jonahstourguide

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what is wrong with WT's "--Will not pass AWAY--" write-ups?
by prologos in
1. watchtower
2. bible
"-- this generation will not pass away until all these things occur--" jesus in math.

24. what are these things?

disasters bigger than the flood?
jonahstourguide

The wbts have erroneously attempted to put a date into this passage for the followers for some years.

There appears no way logically that they can claw back the errors that have been made without

coming clean and stop fabricating a philosophy to enhance a failed prediction.

The only way to fix a blown piston in an internal combustion engine is to replace it with a new one.

As any engine builder knows, the new piston has to be balanced to match the existing ones. For a high

performance engine this is critical, if not done properly it can destroy the complete engine due to imbalance.

At the moment we are looking at a seriously unbalanced engine due to the continual incorrect and unbalanced

piston replacements by incompetent mechanics. Nothing matches up !

My two bobs worth

jtg
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what is wrong with WT's "--Will not pass AWAY--" write-ups?
by prologos in
1. watchtower
2. bible
"-- this generation will not pass away until all these things occur--" jesus in math.

24. what are these things?

disasters bigger than the flood?
jonahstourguide

That's a good question and I am aware of that being queried after a

recent wt, it immediately jarred. I think it was the one you referenced.

I'm just an average joe trying to understand this stuff, and researching references, so,

as you know, before any apologists have a shot at this, it's inexplicable. And I

am blowed if I know. The only explanation that I could construe is in the fashion of

The Goon show "maybe they're not really deaded Neddy, you are only seeing this from a

human stand point Neddy" he heeeee.

It's a bit like trying to prove the overlapping generation scripturally. No can do.

So the position is, we gotta believe what the gb says no questions asked.

jtg
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For fellow Beroeans, Gen 49:27
by jonahstourguide in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i thought this was worth sharing.. .

where did the interpretation of gen 49:27 come from ?.

tms review question 4. .
jonahstourguide

I thought this was worth sharing.

Where did the interpretation of Gen 49:27 come from ?

Who said it first?

TMS review question 4

How did the tribe of Benjamin eventual- ly fulfill the prophecy at Genesis 49:27? [Mar. 24, w12 1/1 p. 29, box] In the “morning” of Israel’s kingly history, Ben- jamin’s descendants included a mighty warrior, King Saul. In the “evening” of that royal history, after the sun had set on Israel’s kingly line, Esther and Morde- cai, both of the tribe of Benjamin, fought effectively against Jehovah’s enemies. In a sense, they also divided spoil, in that Haman’s vast estate went to one of them.

An exerpt from John Gill’s Exposition on Gen 49:27,,,, ( 1697-1771)

Some apply this to particular persons of this tribe, as to Saul the first king of Israel, who was of Benjamin; and who as soon as he took the kingdom of Israel, in the morning, in the beginning of that state, fought against all his enemies on every side, against Moab, Ammon, Edom, the kings of Zobah, and the Philistines, and the Amalekites, 1 Samuel 14:47 and to Mordecai and Esther, who were of the same tribe, who after the captivity, and in the evening of that state, divided the spoil of Haman, Esther 8:1 this is observed by Jarchi, Aben Ezra, and Ben Gersom.

jtg
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Job 6:6
by Bebopin in
1. watchtower
2. bible
king james version job 6:6. can that which is unsavory be eaten without salt?

or is there any taste in the white of an egg?.

new world translation "watchtowers version" job 6:6. will tasteless thing be eaten without salt , or is there any taste in the slimy juice of a marshmallow?.
jonahstourguide

@ Finkelstein,,,,, evidently Jacob was not only sodding pottage but also toasting marshmallows

how could anyone resist??

jtg
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Job 6:6
by Bebopin in
1. watchtower
2. bible
king james version job 6:6. can that which is unsavory be eaten without salt?

or is there any taste in the white of an egg?.

new world translation "watchtowers version" job 6:6. will tasteless thing be eaten without salt , or is there any taste in the slimy juice of a marshmallow?.
jonahstourguide

It now reads the same as the NIV one of Christendoms bibles !

It uses Mallow

jtg

P.s. check the bible hub site for other renderings,,,, I think its Biblos.com.

Just type in the scripture and you're away !!!!!

Edit ,,, yes the old nwt used marshmallow,

the new nwt uses mallow
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JW lifestyle is the best way to live!
by FL_Panthers in
1. jw
2. friends
being a jw is amazing!

who agrees with me??.

the jw is a protection from the world.
jonahstourguide

How fast can you dig a bomb shelter FL_Panthers????

jtg
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Research on legal implications of group shunning
by BreathoftheIndianNose in
1. jw
2. friends
hey everyone!

i haven't posted here in a while, over a year i think.

just goes to show where i'm at in the recovery stage.
jonahstourguide

I'm finding this thread very interesting.

It's got me thinking about how this would apply if a congregation had a "constitution"?

For example, in Australia the individual congregations had to unanimously accept a

congregation specific constitution in order to continue recieving the

Charitable Institution Tax concession.

I noticed therein that members were described as 'active publishers' of the so and so congregation.

So, does the congregation's constitutional description have any bearing on this threads direction?

I'm thinking,,, ok if I am not an active publisher then I have no rights that a member would have, or be

subject to any "treatment" that a member would. If I write a letter stating my resignation from the

membership that should be the end of it, shouldn't it?

LIke as a financial or non financial member of an organisation that describes membership criteria.

Just wondering.

jtg
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You know you have been out long when............
by donny in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
you know you have been out of the organization for some time when no members of the present governing body were "ruling" during your sojurn.

i have tried to keep up with who is a member and learn a bit about each one.. of the current crop, i find anthony morris iii to be the most grating and irritating to listen to.

who do you find the most annoying?
jonahstourguide

Ha ha,

When you return and see the gb issuing decrees that seem

unreasonable from the human viewpoint we've always had

causing difficulties and you start looking around wondering

" When's 'Paul' going to go up to Brooklyn and sort these guy's out?"

( Or did he try and they booted him out?)

jtg
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reasoning book
by Brainfloss in
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2. bible
why isnt the reasoning book available on jw.org?.
jonahstourguide

Its still there with the old last days and 1914 generation statements.

It hasn't been sanitised yet.

The insight online has revised the sodomite resurrection question

to the latest idea: will not be resurrected.

jtg

P.S Go onsite to publications, online library then research guide

under the publications tab and type in last days.
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Todays wt study, a query, no oxymoron jokes !!!!!!
by jonahstourguide in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i wonder, is this a new doctrine and when did "reason and scripture" take place.. .

page 25 paragraph 10 dec 15 2013 study wt.

10 the bread that the apostles could see and would soon partake of meant jesus body.
jonahstourguide

@ leaving.

No I don't believe you are off topic as, due to reason and scriptural references,

you have no choice but to ask as you have.

You have succinctly expressed my and no doubt other thinking

searchers' thoughts. The light seems to be getting fuzzier.

Is it the new energy saving globes or what ?????

jtg