Posts by jonahstourguide

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Tonight's Meeting

by Studyover in

during tonight's meeting the brother seemed to read out something along the lines of "you may be helping a poor sister who you think may be struggling, but in turn that sister may be getting financial assistance from the government.

it is always best to stick to jehovah's arrangement in these matters so that help can get to those who most need it, including the worldwide work".

i think it may have been an article about social media platforms initially and how they should be avoided and then this was mentioned.

jonahstourguide

Yes. As Drearyweather stated, the use of apps for soliciting funds etc was in the outline. Also, the responsibility of starting something and being held to account was in the outline. (A PIMO friend related to an elder confirmed that to me.)

However, as we know, individual elders always throw in their interpretation of a subject.

The one I heard waffled on about what a wonderful provision the service group apps are and how wonderful it now is to be able to donate directly to jwog seeing the publishers can't physically do it at the kh. And please see your group overseer to help you do that.

There was also some gibberish about inadvertently sharing the wonderful spiritual food with apostates.

jtg

P.S. I agree with other comments regarding the popes' efforts to stem the information flow of their history of failures..... Even though the failures are becoming as obvious as dogs balls.

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Tonight's Meeting

by Studyover in

during tonight's meeting the brother seemed to read out something along the lines of "you may be helping a poor sister who you think may be struggling, but in turn that sister may be getting financial assistance from the government.

it is always best to stick to jehovah's arrangement in these matters so that help can get to those who most need it, including the worldwide work".

i think it may have been an article about social media platforms initially and how they should be avoided and then this was mentioned.

jonahstourguide

I will listen for it this Thursday here in Oz. Yes it's primarily about the use of social platforms.

Sounds like an extension of the letter to elders directing minions to exhaust every other option for help elsewhere (like government,relatives,other publishers ) before telling the co that someone needs help from the organisation.

jtg

P.S and they've got the gall to claim they are a charitable entity,,,,,,,,bullshit artists.

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1989 Live Forever Book-PDF!

by Atlantis in

just in case anyone else wants the book.. 1989 you can live forever in paradise on earth.. .. http://we.tl/adcsyh7r2v.

.. .. atlantis!.

jonahstourguide

Gday Pricey.

Welcome to the forum. You will find heaps of stuff here in the search area as smiddy3 suggested.

Be warned mate, one of the first things they will tell her is that the internet is poisoned by apostates and not to read or believe anything they say. What they won't tell you is that their history does not prove god is with them.

As you will see on this site, many here have been studious to the enth degree and have proven for themselves that the jws don't have the 'truth' . It's simply their version of Christianity, one of 40,000 professed Christian denominations.

jwfacts is also a valuable site to search.

Best wishes for your efforts. You will find the real truth of jws.

jtg

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Mandatory Donations??? Is This Accurate?

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

does the information about mandatory donations in this post sound accurate to you?.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/i1gews/new_letter_1000_donations_are_mandatory_now/ petra!

jonahstourguide

Worse than the Egyptian overlords.

ha ha

jtg

28

Mandatory Donations??? Is This Accurate?

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

does the information about mandatory donations in this post sound accurate to you?.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/i1gews/new_letter_1000_donations_are_mandatory_now/ petra!

jonahstourguide

It seems to be a loose interpretation of the s147-20.08 regarding

"adjustment to resolved congregation donations" paragraphs 6 and 7.

6. Adjustment to Resolved Congregation Donations: The resolved monthly donation referred to in the announcement for congregations is based on a monthly per-publisher amount suggested by the branch office. The single monthly donation to the worldwide work will replace the resolved donations previously remitted in support of Kingdom Hall and Assembly Hall construction worldwide, the Global Assistance Arrangement, and any branch-specific arrangements. Instructions for Congregation Accounting (S-27), related accounting forms, and the Funds Transfer page on jworg will be updated in due course.

7. The per publisher amount listed on the jworg web page containing the link to this announcement should be multiplied by the number of active publishers in the congregation to determine the suggested monthly donation for your congregation. It is understood that some congregations will not be able to donate the suggested amount while others will be able to donate more. Therefore, the body of elders should consider whether the suggest- ed amount would impose a hardship on the congregation or the congregation is in a posi- tion to donate the suggested amount or more. The monthly donation agreed upon by the body of elders should be presented in a resolution to the congregation for approval. Please note that the resolved donation should be sent on a monthly basis and not as a single amount for the service year.

jtg.

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Only in Jehovah's organiz . . . scratch that

by neat blue dog in

an experience from the latest magazine.

only in jehovah's organization!

oh wait.. jovica, quoted earlier in this series ofarticles, grew up hearing his countrymen,the news, and television programs givenegative reports about a minority group.“i became filled with prejudice—and evenhatred—for those people,” he says.

jonahstourguide

Hi there,

I thought the point is that it occurred while the person was in the army !?

Thus proving it happens anywhere, contrary to jwdom logic. Hence...."scratch that"

Or, did I miss the point also??

jtg

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NY Tribunal Rejects Fuel Tax Refund For Religious Group

by Rattigan350 in

https://www.law360.com/tax-authority/articles/1292663/ny-tribunal-rejects-fuel-tax-refund-for-religious-group.

ny tribunal rejects fuel tax refund for religious group.

by abraham gross

jonahstourguide

Joe Hoovers hand wasn't in it because it was only $143,000.
'Missed it by that much' according to Maxwell Smart.

jtg

55

Watchtower Sudy 12 July.the Kings of North & South (from 05/20 issue)

by BluesBrother in

it is a challenge next sunday for them .

due to starting the convention programme the wt study will be a 30 minute run through ,and deals with this prophecy ... i doubt the younger ones are familiar with it at all bur oldies could debate it at length .we on the look out for the king of the north to enter "the land of decoration" (more to follow,maybe next week).

this article makes a grand claim in par 2.

jonahstourguide

@ Bobcat.

I wondered how long that translation, 'and' was there for the Hebrew word for 'but'.

I actually looked up in a copy of the old green study bible (circa 1953-1960) that my parents had and sure enough its as you stated in your above post.

I checked yesterday out of curiosity and was going to post it today!!

So, obviously it becomes more evident that the need of the NWT was to support Freddy and Co's philosophies.

I shared the information you provided including the bible hub site info ,which by the way I frequent on a daily basis, with a pimi associate and left him perplexed. His observation ...."the whole meaning is reversed to what the wt implies."

Oh well,, small steps and who knows?

jtg

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Watchtower Sudy 12 July.the Kings of North & South (from 05/20 issue)

by BluesBrother in

it is a challenge next sunday for them .

due to starting the convention programme the wt study will be a 30 minute run through ,and deals with this prophecy ... i doubt the younger ones are familiar with it at all bur oldies could debate it at length .we on the look out for the king of the north to enter "the land of decoration" (more to follow,maybe next week).

this article makes a grand claim in par 2.

jonahstourguide

@Bobcat

Read the link, great point that you make. Thank you.

Beers for Bobcat

jtg

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P. Ms Letter to non subscibers to Redress Scheme

by jonahstourguide in

spotted this article this morning.

i will try to post a link.. jtg.. australia.. institutions refusing to join the national redress scheme are "doubling down" on the crime of child sexual abuse, prime minister scott morrison says.. mr morrison and social services minister anne ruston have warned institutions they may lose funding and tax concessions if they fail to sign up by tuesday's deadline and will be named and shamed.. "all institutions are doing in not joining is doubling down on the crime and doubling down on the hurt," they said in a letter to 25 institutions.. "we consider it to be reprehensible that you have failed to sign up to the scheme.".

the jehovah's witnesses is among the organisations that has refused to sign up, arguing it does not have the institutional settings of other faith-based institutions that the redress scheme is designed to cover.. senator ruston is set to name the non-participating institutions on wednesday, when she will announce what action the federal government will take against them.. "we urge you to join the scheme not because of concerns about being identified, but because it is the right thing to do," the minister and mr morrison said.. "it is the right thing to do by survivors and their families and it is what every, decent, honest, australian demands.".

jonahstourguide

@joey jojo.

I think this may be the "Fairbridge" organisation mentioned in the ARC.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj2j5iO4q_qAhVz4jgGHezgBbMQqQIIUCgAMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fthewest.com.au%2Fnews%2Faustralia%2Fprinces-trust-sorry-for-australian-child-abuse-at-farm-schools-ng-b88535514z&usg=AOvVaw2lpIR3w6rIcGANnCexYhsa

Hope the link works.

jtg