Elders are often heavily encouraged to pioneer at these times but so far it has always been optional.
thedog1
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All appointed men are being told they have to pioneer now!
by stuckinarut2 inyes, you read correctly..... all appointed men have been told in a new letter that they have to pioneer to "set the lead" whenever there is a "special" campaign month.
they use some scripture saying that these ones have to show by example.... so for any of us who are appointed and have learned ttatt, it is going to be very hard to fade during this time!.
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All appointed men are being told they have to pioneer now!
by stuckinarut2 inyes, you read correctly..... all appointed men have been told in a new letter that they have to pioneer to "set the lead" whenever there is a "special" campaign month.
they use some scripture saying that these ones have to show by example.... so for any of us who are appointed and have learned ttatt, it is going to be very hard to fade during this time!.
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thedog1
Haven't heard anything about this yet in our hall!
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BOE - PDF - CONFIDENTIAL 2014-04-22 Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants
by WatchTower87 inboe - confidential.
instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.
no virus ;-).
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thedog1
The letter is real. I read it out at our meeting last night after I conducted the Watchtower study. Yes, the letter is short, but further details will apparently follow.
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How did you tell your spouse you want out of the JW religion?
by leaving_quietly inwhat did you imagine would happen?
did they react the way you expected?
how did you bring it up?.
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thedog1
I agree that it is not the same for everybody. Even though I cannot agree with a lot of doctrine these days, I cannot cut the ties very easily. I have been a Witness for 34 years so it is a part of most of the things I have done in my life. My wife is still fully in though having some problems. At the moment I cannot envisage not being a part of the Witness side of things. Emotional, practical and social ties are very strong. So making the grand gesture in the cause of truth is not a simple thing. Hypocritical? Maybe. Realistic? Yes.
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Is it true that elders lurk the forums?
by make yourself init seems like it is one huge contradiction.
but are they doing it for the purpose to try to guess exactly who in the congregation is on ex jw sites?
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thedog1
I'm only lurking to get to some truth. Not to catch anybody.
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I am DF'd now... Decisions, decisions...
by Comatose inso i was df'd a couple weeks ago.
i live in a place where i didn't really have new friends at the kh, so my day to day life isn't changing.
i'm just me living life like i was 2 weeks ago and 2 years ago.
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thedog1
Hi, just like to mention that one of my extended family is DF'd and his mother wants to see the grandchildren. They have worked out something as she does not want to miss out on their lives even though their dad is dF'd. Other members of the family have a hands off relationship with him but they do not shun him. In the part of the world they live in the dictat for immediate family to take a hardline view on shunning is not taken so seriously. I am an elder and I have always thought that immediate family should have more leeway than others in the cong who would be expected to completely shun a df'd person. When I meet this df'd relative I always greet him and small talk with him. I would never completely shun him as it would go completely against the grain of normal immediate family relationships. How would it be if I shunned him and his fleshly sisters who are also witnesses talk to him and deal with him to some extent? I view this as normal Christian human kindness, so we all get along ok, even though we do not see him very often at all, and he knows we are a bit wary of him because he is df'd , but we treat him as a person, not a statistic!
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Your Experience with Resigning as an Elder
by committeechairman ini'm considering resigning as an elder.
i'm not planning to fade or stop as one of jehovah's witnesses, just stop serving as an elder.. i have responsibility in the congregation and in circuit, district, rbc, etc.
and i'm completely exhausted.
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thedog1
Just to add my two cents worth to all the very interesting comments here. I am in a similar situation to CC. I am thinking of stepping down, but the COBE is sort of ignoring the hints I have given him so far. I have told him that my wife has serious physical and emotional issues, on medication etc., which is true. Now he is scared to talk to her. Others have confided to us in the past that if the bros in the cong think you have any mental issues, they become wary as they don't know how to deal with it. In fact, he is giving me more things to do. He doesn't get it at all. Some in the cong, in a well-meaning way, have put down any mental strain and inability to cope as not relying on Jehovah enough and if my wife was busier in the ministry that she would feel better!
I have always felt uneasy in the elder's role as I never really thought I should be telling others what to do. Now, having read COC and In Search of Christian Freedom by Fred Franz, and still scratching my head about the new FDS and generation teachings, you can imagine things have changed a bit.
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I'm postponing my JW elderette and her BS session again
by Faithful Witness ini really do have more important things to do this week, so i am postponing my elderette again.
she has not yet contacted me for her "topic of discussion" for the week.
i know she wants time to prepare her speech and presentation.
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thedog1
I suppose you could define an elderette as a sister in the congregation who has delusions of power. She wants to be an elder! She is often married to an elder so she basks in his reflected glory.
About the now infamous 'following directions no matter how crazy', I am an elder and I wouldn't do it if it didn't make sense to me. Don't know how long I am going to stay one though.
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Anyone been watchtower conductor
by Saltheart Foamfollower ini think there is a good chance i'm going to be asked to be the watchtower conductor.
on the one hand, i'll find it quite difficult some weeks having to go along with what is written.
on the other hand, there'll be opportunities to ask controversial questions (within limits).
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thedog1
I am a wt study conductor. I had to fake an excuse to not take the wt this weekend as I could not support the mad generation teaching. Not sure what will happen from here on in. Am very close to resigning.
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Change of mindset.
by thedog1 ini have been a witness for a long time and still serve as an elder.
there have been a lot of changes to deal with in the last six months or so since i stumbled on this site due to questions i had about all the recent changes in understanding published in the wt.
many posters here talk about a cult personality and a real personality.
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thedog1
I have been a Witness for a long time and still serve as an elder. There have been a lot of changes to deal with in the last six months or so since I stumbled on this site due to questions I had about all the recent changes in understanding published in the WT. Many posters here talk about a cult personality and a real personality. I'm not sure if I agree with that 100% but I can see now a predominant attitude that takes hold of your mind as a Witness. It has the effect of creating a 'them and us' viewpoint. So for the last 30 years plus I have kept those who are non-Witnesses at arms-length, physically, emotionally and psychologically.
But I have been involved in teaching for the last few years, and particularly in the last two years, through my work, I have met some wonderful young people, both young teenagers and university students. This has had the effect of breaking down some of the walls I have put up for many years, and caused me to think of long-forgotten ideals and dreams I had. Their youthful outlook on things has refreshed my jaded thinking. As humans, we crave knowledge and new things, and at the KH I'm afraid it is the same thing all over again.