I internet is a cult killer. thanks to the internet I recieved the confidence to break free. Especially hearing from those still trapped in who felt like I did. The numbers on the few forums I visit are growing weekly, especially as they link to each other. From here I found jwfacts and Beroean Pickets my favorite sites to read. jwsurvey is an angrier site but there are good insights. I especially love reading all the leaked letters and knowing the silliness in advance. It makes life bearable until I can move on In 2 years.
kneehighmiah
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Are GB problems increasing or is it just better communication
by joe134cd ini was just wondering the other day if the gb problems are getting bigger (e.g law suites, financial, scandals)or is it just a case of they have always been entangled in some kind of drama, but with communication been what it is, it's now a lot easier to find out about them more quickly.
what do you think..
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How the organization can survive and thrive in the 21st Century
by kneehighmiah inlet's face it.
after 2014 comes and goes uneventfully, reality will hit hard for many.
the organization will fall apart and apathy, inactivity and bitterness will rule.
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kneehighmiah
Let's face it. After 2014 comes and goes uneventfully, reality will hit hard for many. The organization will fall apart and apathy, inactivity and bitterness will rule. If the organization wants to survive they will need to trim the fat. Trimiming the fat means getting rid of dead weight members who contribute neither time nor money. The solution? Become a club/worldwide fraternity. How? Instead of forcing people to stay in, only keep people who want to stay. It will increase morale and money. The key is to make being a member worthwhile M I've listed steps to implement this.
1. End strict shunning of those who no longer believe the watchtower. Most "apostates" want to simply be left alone. Those who grew up in "the truth" want the freedom to live their lives without losing their families. Don't force people to stay. We've heard the saying "if you don't like it then leave." This should truly be an option. You will no longer have bitter angry members who go through the motions just to keep family. Only JWs who actually want to be JWs will remain. After implanting step 1 membership could decrease by half.
2. Ex-members will be shunned "spiritually." This means no invitations to witness only events. you can't receive the perks of being a member of an international brotherhood. This leads to step 3.
3. Create membership perks. Jehovah's Witnesses are a very tight-knit community. for many JWs the organization comes first above anything else. Make being a member truly special. How? Make all regional conventions invite only with a list of yearly international Destinations. No ex members allowed. The host cities will entertain and dine the visiting brothers prior to the convention similar to how special conventions are currently run. Make hospital visitation members only. Funerals and weddings too. Congregations will have to be consolidated, but all members will be zealous. Continue to push the agenda that JWs are special.
4. End door to door or severely scale it back. Allow members to recruit by operating literature carts/Tables, distributing tracts and online through JW.Org. Create television commercials, internet ads and billboards. Use social media to attract youth. Allow youtn sports.
5. Allow higher education. Wealthier members means more contributions. Less time in mind numbing door to door service means better jobs, which again means more money.
6. Blood is a conscience decision.
7. Create a statement of beliefs. Variation of personal belief within the framework allowed.
8. Pay me a hefty consulting fee for helping them make more money.
Membership would initially decline, but then rebound as Jehovah's witnesses would become a religious based social club.
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Speculation on why now?
by Crazyguy inin the last couple of years the org has gone money crazy, selling off over a billion dollars worth of property and now a new tithing program.
just wonder what every one thinks is the reason for all this now?.
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kneehighmiah
Reorganization in 2000 resulted in the creation of several additional corporate entities to serve the needs of the United States branch of Jehovah's Witnesses. Since then, most written communication with congregations and individuals in the United States involves the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, Inc; other corporations include, for example:
- Religious Order of Jehovah's Witnesses, New York. Incorporated in 2000 to give particular attention to those in special full-time service: Bethel volunteers, missionaries, traveling overseers, special pioneers; and assembly halls.
- Kingdom Support Services, Inc., New York. Incorporated in 2000 to deal with construction of Kingdom Halls and Assembly Halls, other engineering needs, and vehicles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporations_of_Jehovah's_Witnesses
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Speculation on why now?
by Crazyguy inin the last couple of years the org has gone money crazy, selling off over a billion dollars worth of property and now a new tithing program.
just wonder what every one thinks is the reason for all this now?.
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kneehighmiah
Who do the COs actually work for? Is it the religious order of Jehovah's Witness instead of the WTBTS? If so maybe a person can only sue the religious order of JWs which is made up of special full time servants Including bethel memebers and missionaries. Are there any legal experts here. Search wikipedia for a list of corporations the JWs use.
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Is it true that the GB is soon planning on ditching the 1914 doctrine?
by yogosans14 inor atleast tweaking it again... apparently there has been rumors of this coming out of bethel.
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kneehighmiah
1914 has already been ditched. We have divorced any significant events from that date with the latest teachings. It used to be that 1914 was the beginning of the great tribulation, separating of sheep and goats, Christ's return. Now it is now of those things. Heck the FDS hasn't even been appointed by Christ yet. as time goes on 1914 will fade. It's being used this year to draw attention to 100 years of kingdom rule. It exists solely for marketing purposes. After this year 1914 will have Become insignificant. Many young JWs no longer believe the end is coming soon. i think many here who believe the organization can't fold are underestimating what will happen after this year.
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How to become an MS in no time
by Batman89 inthe method i used lol.
1) be a good servant and make sure your wt and pub are always underlined every meeting(great for appearances).
2) comment every meeting(a "sure way" to know someones "spiritually qualified").
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By the way. I'm seeing lots of young MS signooo up here. Welcome aboard. I'm in the same boat. Glad to see the next wave of potential elders wake up and leave.
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How to become an MS in no time
by Batman89 inthe method i used lol.
1) be a good servant and make sure your wt and pub are always underlined every meeting(great for appearances).
2) comment every meeting(a "sure way" to know someones "spiritually qualified").
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kneehighmiah
Pioneer girls are far less likely to turn you in. They usually pioneer out of Guilt anyways. They rationalize that as long as they pioneer they are forgiven. So they make up for their bad deeds by doing more, serving temporarily in foreign countries Or on the RBC. Plus they don't want to lose the prestige of being looked up to a pioneer. And they wish to dodge everyone asking why they got deleted.
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JWs under scrutiny in Finland
by Mickey mouse inhttp://yle.fi/uutiset/ngo_calls_on_ministry_to_probe_closed_religious_groups_jehovahs_witnesses_under_scrutiny/7219755.
sorry i'm on a tablet so can't make the above clickable.
more at link.
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kneehighmiah
This is how to actually fight the watchtower. I would love to see the WT in the United States taken to court over civil rights violations. Private organization have the right to expel members. However JWs go too far. They use coercion And pressure to destroy family bonds. Ex members should not be subject to such harsh consequences.
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136th Gilead Class Graduates-JW.Org
by Brother Mike ini just found this video they released on their official website.
sorry if this was already posted.
(if not i thought some might have some thoughts about it).
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kneehighmiah
You can no longer apply for gilead. You must be invited.
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Family of 4 in Miami FL Partakes
by James Jackson inkendall lakes congregation (miami fl usa), partook of the emblems.
he is an elder(40), his wife and their 2 daughters (21 &19), all 4 are also regular pioneers.
another 6 pioneers in that congregation partook of the emblems..
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kneehighmiah
Partaking publicky craps on the sacred teaching of the declining number of anointed. It makes people question the GB. totalitarian regimes only fall once large groups of people start to take a stand Against them and disobey their rules. See Detroit convention. That's why the new July watchtower warns JWs to reject controversial thoughts even if they aren't necessarily unscriptural. They are getting scared.