I joined foreign language and traveled for a bit. Interestingly I recently ran into someone I knew while in foreign language who is now a member of this site. we both happen to be college educated. There werevseveral people who were college educated and beyond in foreign langue age. M.D.s and masters. I even met a J.D. in NYC. She was still in her twenties.
kneehighmiah
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Secular JWs: The future of the organization?
by kneehighmiah ini was raised in a jewish community.
the secular jews greatly outnumbered the orthodox jews.
like jws they had a tight knit community.
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Secular JWs: The future of the organization?
by kneehighmiah ini was raised in a jewish community.
the secular jews greatly outnumbered the orthodox jews.
like jws they had a tight knit community.
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kneehighmiah
I was raised in a Jewish community. The secular Jews greatly outnumbered the Orthodox Jews. Like JWs they had a tight knit community. Judaism was more of a culture to them than a religion. There many Jewish people who were athiest and even participated in Christmas and other secular holidays. Yet they still kept their traditional holidays and customs as these foster a sense of community. However, the negative aspects of the religion have been toned down. The mosaic law which once mandated death for sinners is no longer enforced.
As the JW teachings trend towards buffoonery and the end continues to be delayed, could the GB stem the tide of brain drain by loosening up? Even though I am no longer a believer I would still be willing to attend meetings on occasion if given the option. Instead I'm forced to attend every meeting or be threatened with an inquisition because I'm still an MS and it's hard to resign. We throw some nice witness events in our area and it would be so nice if people could attend these events without having to satisfy a meeting and service quota. I think if the control was loosened many people would stay. It seems here that most posters want to still be with their families, yet they aren't allowed to be. People care more about the sense of community than the beliefs. If the GB encouraged college and betterment of oneself they would see many JWs attend and still stick around the organization. Instead the GB has really forced my hand in the matter. Eventually I'll have to leave, so they're losing out on someone who would have been willing to stay and support the local community. I enjoy building projects, donating clothing, cooking meals and tutoring witness kids in school. Many on this board do too. Took bad we've been forced or take our talents elsewhere. If the JWS became more secular, many would stay.
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2014: do you see Witnesses ramping up activity? What will the aftermath be in 2015?
by JimmyPage injw's often say they don't serve with any dates in mind.
but the fact is many of them can't fathom why the end just hasn't come yet.
since 2014 marks 100 years of invisible rule many witnesses can't help but think this has some special meaning.
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kneehighmiah
Yes they're ramping up so much that only 2 people were baptized at a recent convention. Several people I know have stopped attending so late in this time of the end. Lol.
@crazyguy Ive heard the same thing about the writing department. My friend who is very devout says the end must come within 10 years or the organization won't last in the US. i got into a debate with another elder mts grad friend who doesn't believe the org will make the necessary major changes because that would be admitting they're wrong. All doomsday cults have eventually died, many before my time as I'm young. I don't think anyone who's been out for more than five years can actually comment on whats been going on. Many active dubs are very aware of inaccuracies and awaiting reform.
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There are still JW's calling the masturbation video as fake and apostate propaganda
by EndofMysteries in10 hours ago, " another malicious propaganda against jehova's witnesse!!".
"he is not a jehova's witness!!
!thois a big lie against jehova's witnesses!
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kneehighmiah
JW new recruits are more and more uneducated, unstable and fanatical. They can't even spell correctly. All my JW friends just shake our heads at some of the stuff that comes out and kinda sweep it under the rug.
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Preparing for my next visit from my Elderette - Who (or what) is the Faithful & Discreet Slave, and why do JW's worship and follow a slave?
by Faithful Witness inshe is coming tomorrow afternoon, and i do plan to have a coherent mind and much better concentration this time.
i was suffering from hypoglycemia last time she made a surprise visit, and i was foggy and literally could not comprehend a simple sentence i was reading.
our plans are to discuss the topic of the fds.
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kneehighmiah
She doesn't know what she's getting in to. Dare her to show you how the FDS was appointed in 1919 using only the Bible. It's impossible. Look up John Gills expostion of the bible and consider the commentary for the verse. Dare her to justify a literal FDS and a hypothetical evil slave using only the Bible.
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The Watchtower is under siege from inside and outside
by suavojr inthat is the reason the watchtower leaders are desperately trying to protect their indoctrinated supporters from being influenced by the critics.. it will get harder and harder to recruit in countries where the internet is easily accessible...the watchtower has no control over the public like it does the indoctrinated jws.
..any interested person can very easily google and learn the truth about the watchtower cult before a 'return visit' can be made.
although most jws would be afraid to go into 'apostate ' sites, more and more are waking up to the truth about the watchtower , their interest triggered by different reasons such as the child abuse cover up, the constantly changing doctrines,the downsizing etc.
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kneehighmiah
Hey JWfacts, can you post hte numbers about how many hours it takes to get a new person baptized? If possible can you determine if this number of hours is higher in western lands compared to the worldwide average? I believe these numbers will show how the org is slowly dying. Many religions have come and gone throughout the 20th century. Just because JWs made it for 100 years doesn't mean they will last forever without significant changes. Totalitarian governments tend to be short lived. In the grand scheme of things 100 years is a very short time. The WT will fade away within 30 years. There are no intelligent young people to take charge and the failed prophecies will be fully evident. Something new will take its place.
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A letter from my Mom
by ateograciasadios infriends,.
i have seen several posts like the following, and never thought i would have to write one myself, but here we go: my dear mom is forcing me to make a move... one that i have been really avoiding as much as possible.
she wrote me an email today, and here i am giving you an idea of its contents.
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kneehighmiah
1st of all I doubt you can talk to JR brown directly. You can talk to his office though. But here's a trick. Call his office pretending to be a "worldly" person and ask them if JWs shun relatives. They will lie and say no. Record this conversation and send to your mom. ask other questions and they will lie about them also. ask if only JWs receive salvation and ask if the GB is inspired. The answers they will give to both questions is no. If they were to answer yes to these questions they would appear to be a cult so they will say no. Tell your mom that according to the media office she is not supposed to shun you.
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Not All Anointed Ones Alive Today Are Part Of 'This generation'
by OwnAccord inwhere do they come up with this stuff?.
this is a topic on 'the other site'.
i actually called our bethel ny branch and talked to a brother on the writing committee, at writing correspondence.
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kneehighmiah
They don't actually believe that. No intelligent person would believe that Jesus meant that. As soon as I read that new teaching scales fell from my eyes.
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KM School for Elders Only in 2015 Service Year
by NotBlind injust heard this at the meeting last night - km school for elders only to be held between november 11th and january 11th.
it will be one day (8 hours) and will likely be an update on the new org.
changes being fired out, likely judicial in nature also..
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kneehighmiah
Haha. I'm glad I don't have to go this time. Had to miss football.
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Removing DO's Will Be a Fatal Mistake
by kneehighmiah inhere is an article i looked up about the collapse of the soviet union.
striking similarities.. http://www.worldology.com/europe/europe_articles/causes_soviet_collapse.htm.
stagnating economy: the soviet union had grown to a size large enough to the point where it became cumbersome to continue state planning.
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kneehighmiah
Forgot this one.
Reduced Motivation of Fear: Friendlier relations with the U.S. in the 70s, 80s meant that the general public was no longer completely motivated to strengthen itself against the American threat.
The Apostate is the great JW enemy. But fear of apostates is shrinking. Many JW are ignoring warnings and viewing apostate teachings from their computers. Stating that you don't believe in the GB will not get you hauled into a comittee anymore, unless of course you tell the elders. Your secret will be safe amongst friends, though they might distance themselves.