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  If The Bible Is The Word Of God...

  by XJW4EVR in

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  many here have abandoned the bible as "the word of god" and there are numerous reasons for said abandonment.

  however what i am interested in finding out is if the bible is the word of god, then what would you expect to find?.

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  Frank75

  Spike

  DD: no. Jesus was human only from conception till death. I understand that Jesus was NOT resurrected as a human, but as an angel in the form of a human.

  to Chalam: As many scriptures indicate, an angel may manifest itself as though a human, and are even described as being such, though they are actually not. Appearances are one thing, substance is something else.

  (1 Timothy 2:5) . . .For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus. . (NWT)

  This passage was written many decades after Jesus was resurrected, and yet Paul still refers to him as a MAN

  So was he a flesh and blood man or an angel man here?

  Frank75
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  Wars, earthquakes and famines are not signs of the end

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the late 1960s and early 1970s, i wrote my study, 1914 and all that.

  in it, i stated that at matthew 24 jesus warned his followers against seeing wars, earthquakes and famines as being signs.

  i have not wavered from that position, which i have given in my posts here at times.. .

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  Frank75

  Spike:

  I am fully aware that Spike Tassel isn't a dub. I used to play the same games to justify coming here to rub elbows with apostates.

  But I can go with it for the value of the game play.

  Avoid the obvious on a public forum and you have answered well enough.

  Frank75
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  Wars, earthquakes and famines are not signs of the end

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the late 1960s and early 1970s, i wrote my study, 1914 and all that.

  in it, i stated that at matthew 24 jesus warned his followers against seeing wars, earthquakes and famines as being signs.

  i have not wavered from that position, which i have given in my posts here at times.. .

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  Frank75

  Son of a gun:

  Why don't you ask "above" for the citation I referenced? Next time you're talking to yourself, ask yourself what you said.

  Otherwise you could use your all powerful back button to see my original post, it is the 2nd reply in this thread.

  You faithful slaves never fail at astounding those of us out of "God's" loop.

  Frank75
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  Wars, earthquakes and famines are not signs of the end

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the late 1960s and early 1970s, i wrote my study, 1914 and all that.

  in it, i stated that at matthew 24 jesus warned his followers against seeing wars, earthquakes and famines as being signs.

  i have not wavered from that position, which i have given in my posts here at times.. .

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  Frank75

  prophecies often have more than one fulfillment

  Spike

  That may be true, but you don't answer either question (or offer any proof of your assertion).

  1st ? is the above post

  The 2nd, since you are an expert on this ubber fulfillment of prophecy, is, Who then is the person/persons/group(s) being warned about in Luke 21:8 if not JW's?

  I am trying to avoid large words so you can just simply answer the question. (again I don't know will be an answer although disingenuous)

  Frank75
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  Wars, earthquakes and famines are not signs of the end

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the late 1960s and early 1970s, i wrote my study, 1914 and all that.

  in it, i stated that at matthew 24 jesus warned his followers against seeing wars, earthquakes and famines as being signs.

  i have not wavered from that position, which i have given in my posts here at times.. .

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  Frank75

  T.F.D.S.

  I like how you quote what I wrote and yet make no attempt to refute the argument, but just plow ahead with your own version of doomsday prophecy.

  Why should we take your word that he meant this or that over the direct words of the man himself?; your own admitted master/Lord or whoever you claim Jesus to be?

  He said that a Generation that seeks for a sign is "Wicked" and the worse of the two I suppose "Twisted".

  Why then would a slave or follower of him seek/look/obsess for/over signs?

  If you don't know, then just say you don't know, no need to post more rhetoric.

  Frank75
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  If The Bible Is The Word Of God...

  by XJW4EVR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many here have abandoned the bible as "the word of god" and there are numerous reasons for said abandonment.

  however what i am interested in finding out is if the bible is the word of god, then what would you expect to find?.

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  Frank75

  Jehovah resurrected him, but Jesus himself had to rouse himself up into a standing position

  Spike

  I am not quite clear on what you are saying, ie He was raised in some disembodied way and then reconstructed his own body? Or it was "God" who raised his Temple/body?

  Anyways, a Very convenient "original" WT answer that ensures the continued acceptance of their viewpoint. But it fails to deal honestly with the situation that brought about the statement.

  I know it is a dirty word for Dubs, but contextually, Jesus had the verbal skills to ask them to respect his Fathers house, but dubs argue that in his next breath he didn't have the courtesy to give due credit for his future resurrection to the Father?

  Such a gymnastical interpretation begs the question of why make such a statement, if you are a perfect man/angel, that was sure not to be understood by your audience (even disciples until much later)?

  The more "Christlike" and truthful statement would then be "God" (since there is absolutely no evidence that Jesus ever called the father Jehober) would raise up this "Temple" (Jesus' body).

  To give credit to himself even in a diminutive way would be out of character, even a dub would have to admit that

  He would not have been branded a heretic, because who of those Jews would challenge God's ability to do it, nor would people today have anything to debate about as to who was who.

  I appreciate your attempt at a response but perhaps you could enlighten us further or refute the above.

  Frank75
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  If The Bible Is The Word Of God...

  by XJW4EVR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many here have abandoned the bible as "the word of god" and there are numerous reasons for said abandonment.

  however what i am interested in finding out is if the bible is the word of god, then what would you expect to find?.

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  Frank75

  Spike:

  That is funny. She could indeed be wearing one......so courtesy and respect would require a photo shop hankie on her mane.

  But since you are up, and defending the Unitarian view of the society, How do you deal with scriptures such as John 2:19?

  In answer Jesus said to them: "Break down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."

  The next verse shows the temple Jesus was referring to was his body.

  I don't need the WT standard guff, just a simple explanation of how it would be possible for him to do that.....being dead and all.

  Frank75
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  If The Bible Is The Word Of God...

  by XJW4EVR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many here have abandoned the bible as "the word of god" and there are numerous reasons for said abandonment.

  however what i am interested in finding out is if the bible is the word of god, then what would you expect to find?.

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  3. 
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  Frank75
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  If The Bible Is The Word Of God...

  by XJW4EVR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many here have abandoned the bible as "the word of god" and there are numerous reasons for said abandonment.

  however what i am interested in finding out is if the bible is the word of god, then what would you expect to find?.

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  Frank75

  yes the bible is the word of God despite misuse by man.

  Reniaa

  Where is your head covering? WOMAN! (It's ok, you're allowed to teach here)

  Frank75
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  Wars, earthquakes and famines are not signs of the end

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the late 1960s and early 1970s, i wrote my study, 1914 and all that.

  in it, i stated that at matthew 24 jesus warned his followers against seeing wars, earthquakes and famines as being signs.

  i have not wavered from that position, which i have given in my posts here at times.. .

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  Frank75

  Fundy DUB's

  Luke 21:8

  8 He said: "Look out that YOU are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The due time has approached.’ Do not go after them

  This text is part of your so called sign(s) passage of Luke. So based on your religions teaching on the last days being the 20th er 21st Century, who would that sign be describing if not groups such as JW's?

  Frank75