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A question for all Whisky drinkers.

by lfcviking in

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hello chumz on the board.

nothing really to do with jwism but who prefers the american 'bourbon' type such as 'wild turkey', 'jim beam' etc or who prefers a fine single malt scotch such as 'glenfiddich' or 'glenmorangie'?

i am not trying to stir up nationalism with this question but am just genuinely curious.. lfcv.

Frank75

Man! I can't believe I have missed this thread!

I am a die hard Scotch drinker and my preference is Single Malts, but if I must have a blend it is Chivas or my favorite JW Blue Label (I have a bottle always in reserve sealed and one open.....you never know when you feel like celebrating something!)

I tend to prefer the older Scotch as I have become a real snob about the stuff. For those who drink it neat, I was with you for years, always spurning the water (or anyone asking for ice or a water mix - they can have the Teachers!). Then about 15 years back I went to a Scotch tasting hosted by JW (Johnny Walker) and the speaker was the Chief Distiller at Cardhu. Cardhu is very nice Scotch in its own right and it is the only one my wife will drink. Cardhu makes up more than 50% of the Johnny Walker blended Scotch.

So there we are with our mouth watering single malts in front of us and he tells us that in order to experience the full flavor of Scotch there has to be a few drops of water added. We were to take a sip of each Scotch, clear our pallet and then add the water and try it again. It changed me, so give it a try! Just a tiny splash makes all the difference in the world.

Lagavulin (no matter how you pronounce it), Oban, Knockando, Talisker, Auchentoshan.....you name it. There is a scotch for every occasion and I have a red nose to prove it!

The Macallan 18 year old has been mentioned, it is a very nice over all and sure to please. They also have a great line of specialty scotches like their Elegancia or cask strength. They also have a 50 year old that my wife says she wants to get for my birthday. Here's hoping!

The others mentioned here I have enjoyed and as they say, I wouldn't kick any of them out of bed for eating crackers! One that I didn't see listed is called Bruichladdich. If you can find it, give it a try as the 10 year old and 15 year old are two of my faves.

Te Bheag (Che Veck in Gaelic) is un-chilled filtered which is closest to what scotch drinkers drank before Scotch became so commercial. It is claimed to be the most genuine Gaelic Whisky. No disappointment there.

The Brass ring still has to go to this one from Glennfiddich which is 50 year old. The one behind it, Bowmore 30 year old is superb as well for a lot less money

Stop drooling!!

Frank75

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JW dating agency

by aniron in

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friends

a long while ago for fun i joined one of those jw dating agency on the internet.

forgot about it, then saw its advert on here.

so thought have another look see who is on there from uk.

Frank75

I signed up on one too. Is it so difficult for XjDubs to get a hold of the last song on the third service meeting of the month?

Sheeesh! Wouldn't be a good 'postate if I couldn't do that. You know with all that help from Satan's Organization and everything.

I am blown away by 2 things (not my real picture or profile) A) How many people I recognize, and B) how absolutely desperate the women are.

Everyone is deluded into thinking Mr. (or Miss.) Right is out there somewhere because the local monkeys are absolute losers.

Hope springs eternal!

Frank75

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Are JW's a Cult?

by PinTail in

pintail

Frank75

OTWO - We are arguing over a definition when we answer.

I agree it seems a useless debate. What I like about your approach is that it depends not on a point by point criteria but rather these are warning signs, indicators only. At the end of the day it is principally mind control and coercive tactics that does it for me, as the other marks are frosting.

By definition someone could say Christianity is a cult and Jesus is the leader. (Christianity is a bad word to use because of the number of cults that take it to apply to them, perhaps Christology is better)

However in reality the definition fails in that one critical area. The biblical Jesus never used mind control, guilt or coercive tactics. (although Jesus did make people feel guilty by relating simple stories that showed the people and their reasoning up it was not shame based as is done in the cults) On the other hand, Christianity, was meant to be liberating, freeing the mind and soul. Anything that does not mirror the "Christ" philosophy of brotherhood, unconditional love, true forgiveness and grace is a farce.

Frank75

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Are JW's a Cult?

by PinTail in

pintail

Frank75

BA- It is CHRIST that said "where one or two are gathered in my name"... Nothing WRONG with being a One-Man-Band...just won't accomplish as much.
Mad

I thought that scripture meant a judicial committee?!?! LOL

Tapping- They are a f**ing cult. Just because they don't fit the definition of the "single leader" does not mean they're not.
OTWO - That's not an absolute definition that they must have a "single leader." Plus many cults have passed
on this leadership after the single leader died. Often, what is left is a group of believers that blindly
follow the dead leader's instructions. WAIT- that is Jehovah's Witnesses. Rutherfordites who only
abandon Rutherford's teachings that must be abandoned when they are clearly not coming true.

So many good points made, I've really enjoyed this thread.

There is no reason to get hung up on the single leader issue. The Watchtower does have a single leader and it is the mystical Wizard of Oz called the Governing Body. As a singular entity it is hair splitting for anyone to argue the difference, as in this case there is none.

However as OTWO and others have noted, the WT has had single leaders, CT Russell and Rutherford. If you want to look at the JW's in that context they fit the definition. Anyone who argues they are not now such just because of their modern structure is arguing that they ceased being a cult when they adopted the 2/3 vote in the mid 70's. That just makes no sense.

Even Knorr who took over the presidency was a cult leader as he simply took over the reigns from the charismatic Rutherford. He used Franz to keep everyone mystified as he himself lacked the gusto to truly be their theological leader. However if Franz was not in the picture at all then whatever nonesense Knor thought up on his own would have been adopted by the faithful without question, pushed by the leadership and any opposition would have been crushed. That reality alone makes it a cult! The two together still constitutes the cult leadership of the past. Nothing changed about the religion just because two were leading it now. Even there the definition still fits.

Likewise, the lack of a defined suicide pact is not a disqualifier either, the future is still unwritten. Even so any number of policy/beliefs already constitute a time bomb of mass suicide. The blood issue and neutrality are just two. Witnesses in their entirety have pledged to die rather than accept blood or vote. Countless thousands who have died needlessly on the operating table and the Malawian members are solid examples of a suicide pact that has played out, at least for them.

Lastly, there is an expression defined here known as "the Cult of Personality". Many posters have described it without coming right out with it. In the end the Watchtower leadership is indistinguishable from a single leader as it operates as a single entity or "personality".

I am sure anyone who still denies the WT cult status realizes how weak any defense of the religion is. In fact all religion carries the mark of Cult in some way. In Spanish since JW's were not the only ones who went door to door, we often heard the expression, "Que culto son?" which simply means "which religion are you with?".

Frank75

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Wanted: Outrageous WT Qotes

by Gerard in

i post regularly in an international web-based group regarding the sport i do.

one of the group members is a jw and always signs his posts with: "that people may know that you, whose name is jehovah, you alone are the most high over all the earth.

i kindly asked him three times to stop his preaching in our sports forum but he persists.

Frank75

* Watchtower November 1 1938 p. 324 *

There is no reasonable or scriptural injunction to bring children into the world before Armageddon, where we are now.

* FACE THE FACTS pp. 46, 49-50 *

Would it be Scripturally proper for them to now marry and begin to rear children? No, is the answer, which is supported by the Scriptures. […]

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Wanted: Outrageous WT Qotes

by Gerard in

i post regularly in an international web-based group regarding the sport i do.

one of the group members is a jw and always signs his posts with: "that people may know that you, whose name is jehovah, you alone are the most high over all the earth.

i kindly asked him three times to stop his preaching in our sports forum but he persists.

Frank75

* Awake! 1960 March 8 p.27 *

As a rule, for a Christian to go to a worldly psychiatrist is an admission of defeat, it amounts to 'going down to Egypt for help.' —Isaiah 31:1.

Often when a Witness of Jehovah goes to a psychiatrist, the psychiatrist will try to persuade him that his troubles are caused by his religion, entirely overlooking the fact that the Christian witnesses of Jehovah are the best-oriented, happiest and most contented group of people on the face of the earth. They have the least need for psychiatrists.

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Wanted: Outrageous WT Qotes

by Gerard in

i post regularly in an international web-based group regarding the sport i do.

one of the group members is a jw and always signs his posts with: "that people may know that you, whose name is jehovah, you alone are the most high over all the earth.

i kindly asked him three times to stop his preaching in our sports forum but he persists.

Frank75

*** W69 3/15 pg. 171***
"Do not pursue higher education. There is very little time left! Make pioneer service, the full-time ministry with the possibility of Bethel or missionary service, your goal."

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The many ways Jehovah's Witnesses harm children

by under_believer in

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friends

was talking with my therapist this morning and i made the comment "i guess i don't mind if she is a witness as long as it doesn't harm the kids.

" this got me thinking about all the ways that being raised as witnesses harms or can harm children.

1) teaches children to have an air of superiority regarding other human beings.

Frank75

Making parents bring their children to at least 2 meetings a week to be bored out of their tree, long past the time they should be in bed. That has caused most of us who were raised in that cult untold problems.

We put our son to bed at 6:30 to 7:30 and he sleeps all night. First I do not understand how parents did it, including mine, second I am glad my son will never have to live through that BS.

Likewise he will be enrolled in every "extra curricular" activity that his heart desires, and we will both be there for every game, chess match or school play/dance!

Frank75

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ANYTHING EXCITING EVER HAPPEN AT YOUR KINGDOM HALL?

by anewme in

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friends

did anything exciting or alarming ever happen at your hall?

i remember only funny incidents, like one brother getting up there with his zipper down.

(i knew alot of brothers after that felt no shame to actually check down there before going up on the podium!

Frank75

Frank75...you should write a book.

Stealth:

I have contemplated 2 books. First and foremost I want to write a book on the the Anti Christ. I believe I can make a very good readable book based on my experience with "religion" yet without relying on the dubs as a back drop. I believe that our experiences as dubs although extreme are basically what happens in any church to one degree or another.

The next book would deal with the secret letters and cover ups of the Watchtower including anecdotal experiences such as I have posted here. The book would mostly consist of publishing letters of introduction that I spirited away from the files when I left. Here everyone can see that elders of the JW's have an incredible knack for assassinating peoples character without really appearing to do so, even feigning love and concern for the person while doing it.

Anyone who has ever moved congregations without knowing what was said about them would find it very informative.

Who would publish that? No idea!

Frank75

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BC parents back in court

by Stealth453 in

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/sextuplets_court

Frank75

What blows me away about this lawyer Shane Brady is .....when the f* did he become a lawyer?

When I new him at the Canadian Bethel he was one of the bread makers in the kitchen staff!

As wacko as the province of BC government is, those poor kids are still in better hands with them than the JW's legal department.

Frank75

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*** Watchtower November 1 1938 p. 324 ***

*** FACE THE FACTS pp. 46, 49-50 ***

*** Awake! 1960 March 8 p.27 ***

* Watchtower November 1 1938 p. 324 *

* FACE THE FACTS pp. 46, 49-50 *

* Awake! 1960 March 8 p.27 *