Mary-
The G.B. has been washed free from blood, so anything goes. It's the rest of the R & F who need to get cleansing blood elsewhere - killing themselves for the cult. Let us sing, "from house to house... " Yech!
guys and gals try this one on....i just found out that our local congertion...sold the old hall...with all its acrege...to the local catholic church to become a school.for preist.....i had thought the wtbs was to have no dealings with babylon the great....donald
Mary-
The G.B. has been washed free from blood, so anything goes. It's the rest of the R & F who need to get cleansing blood elsewhere - killing themselves for the cult. Let us sing, "from house to house... " Yech!
the mind is what the brain does; not who you are.
the soul is an idea that would seem to have testable consequences.
specifically, if the human mind is the product of a "ghost in the machine" and not simply the result of electrochemical interactions, then the mind should not be dependent on the physical actions of the brain that houses it.
Yes Terry, continuous throughout time. Very essential point. But once we've been through the "musings", if you ask; I would respond- I AM.
guys and gals try this one on....i just found out that our local congertion...sold the old hall...with all its acrege...to the local catholic church to become a school.for preist.....i had thought the wtbs was to have no dealings with babylon the great....donald
Donald-
Wonder if they sold the Theocratic School's roster to the church too? No honor among thieves..
i wasnt the most academic of children although i had some capability but i could read quite well by the time i was 4 years old at least for my age; i have always read as a child and still read now as an adult both professionally (research) and for pleasure.
i have always been able to write too...and pretty much advanced as well as my peers did in school...perhaps i am lucky, i certainly feel like i am when illiteracy amongst adults and children is rife at present...however.. i remember when i was 16 the wts in the uk were pushing through a scheme teaching those who were not as able to read and write...and an elder in the hall made a point of coming to me and suggesting that i should actually attend the training!!
!....i explained that i could read and write well enough and didnt need to be taught basic literacy... he said that i might learn something new and should respect jehovahs order of things and show appreciation...i did decline his kind offer rather abruptly....but wtf??
"NOBODY EVER CAME OUT OF A CONCENTRATION CAMP WITH A GLAND PROBLEM!
Obviously, the Kingdom Ministry School helped this shmuck.
The elders visited my apartment when I was leaving - one brother said I would be "on the bottle with a needle in my arm a month from now." The other elder recommended they both beat the crap out of me, "it would be better than him going back into the WORLD."
Great humanitarians!
being a fan of the tv show the apprentice, i love to "play along" to see if my ideas would work with what the teams are tasked to accomplish.
many times, their ideas are totally off.
other times, the executives they are tasked with providing a presentation to feel that they had 'hit a home run.
Sell indugences! Sell prayer cloths! Sell Little Flock slots! Sell! Sell!
imagine a situation were the jw org is burst assunder with all the rank and file members leaving and then entering into a legal dispute with the wts over the assets issue: they want to claim most of it because they are the ones that really made it with their unpaid work and conributions in money or property.
they want to have the wts and all its daughter corporations.
on the other hand the wts the shareholders, the directors, will claim that the assets legally belong to them, they can boast of a legally protected ownership over them, they are registered in their name and they should keep everything.
Frankie-
Ditto. Just a matter of time. Something, anything could touch it off. Just like Archduke Ferdinand getting a slug, and bingo C.T. Russell becomes a God for some shooting that touches off a war. Hell, any day a revolution might begin in Bethel, and after the fact nobody will remember what exact deed touched off the internal fighting. They think they have divisions now....remember they taught us, "every brother will be at his brother's throat." And, "it starts with the House of God," and not 1918 either; then let the games begin!
i always liked what richard dryfress said in the movie "alaways", when he found out he was dead---"wow!!
!-----what a jerk i turned out to be"!!!!.
my mother's head stone says---------"i told you i was sick"!!
Cremation and scattered in Northern Ontario
i stopped all jw activity on june 12, 1996. my 18th birthday.
i made arrangements to stay with some friends and they even lined me up a summer job.
i snuck out in the middle of the night and left my parents a note.
Been out since 1978. Thanks to sites like this I was able to reposition belief systems and mind control thoughts (after many years). Thanks Simon.
a paradise exists on earth today.
it is extending farther and farther and is being enjoyed by millions of people.
you, too, can be part of it.
I don't call it a Spiritual Paradise when you see elders groveling before C.O.s while boozed up, pill ridden, and about to be removed for burnout; nor the excused abuse of children, deaths due to enforced "consciousness". Nah, more like an institution run by deranged and sadistic inmates.
i seemed to have a problem with the people there because i am outspoken.
(and this was all before i had any clues to how bad the whole thing was.
) i am just an outspoken person in general and my family (not dubs) are also outspoken.
Elsewhere-
Yes, told to dumb down my vocabulary too.
By a C.O. to say "I don't know the answer to that question" - even if I did. By the Brooklyn Service Committee to "give the wrong answer sometimes, it reflects humility." By a P.O. after a public talk, "my, wasn't that bombastic today." And tact... well I thought if Jeremiah could say it, I would too, "householder, if you don't accept Jehovah's Divine Plan, expect to be hung on meat hooks at Armageddon." J.R. Brown and I preached together on a couple of occasions, talk about tact. That man is/was an animal.