Posts by Odrade

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Moving to Bend, Oregon.......GAH!! Help!!

by Xander in

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well, wife got a transfer to bend, or.. this is good - we've been trying to move out there for a while.

we're in ne ohio now.. only problem is....well, *i* don't have a job out there yet!

also, we need to find a place to stay, need to sell our house, have a ton of things we need to get rid of..... uggghhhh....never moved this far before.

Odrade

You guys are all mean, mean, mean.

Bend is a beautiful place. Kind of desert-y. Sisters is one of my favorite towns in Oregon, and an easy commute to Bend. There are major environmentalists down there, it's kind of a half granola/tree hugger town. The other half are the huge truck/chainsaw/four-wheeling crowd.

Bend has a bit of IT and High-Tech stuff going on. I've known of several people who have gone down there (I'm in Portland) to work for Tech companies. You'll love it there. It's worth the move. The weather is more extreme in Bend than in NW Oregon of course, but probably not more so than Ohio. Lots of snow in the Winter, lots of sun in the Summer. Great sports and activities year round.

Lucky you, and Good luck with the job hunt. Things are starting to open up around here a little bit in the Tech sector.

Odrade

P.S. Not you, Swan, you are sweet, sweet, sweet.

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Guns: At the Door - No. 4

by Amazing in

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friends

have any of you ever been faced with a gun at the door?

most of us have at one time or another heave of gun stories.

i was faced with this twice.

Odrade

Yep, rural door, rifle, It's quite an interesting sound actually. We never went back.

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About my ex wife, I am now really confused...

by Lapuce in

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friends

well i guess this is a though one, but i will as you what do you think i sould do as it has been bugging me for for the past week.. .

here is, i've been divorced form my ex wife since july and seperated since the new year, i always liked here but could not stand all the bull from being da'd as here friends and mine could not talk and meet anymore because of this.

now she wants me back (she is still a dub) and would like for me to go back and marry her again, this time at the kingdom hall and simply being incative, doing what i want but being with me, so all could be normal again, i know i would have to fake all again to be re-instated, and bullshit all until i get married, then do nothing just be a dub in title, so that i could be again with the one i love???

Odrade

Man, I'm with Stacy on the whole getting married in the kingdom hall thing. When is she planning on marrying you? In a couple years? You're currently DA'd. So you'd have to go back and grovel for a minimum of 6 months, then be on reproof for a minimum of six months, then be a regular publisher, get all your "privileges" back, then grovel some more, to have a wedding in the Kingdom hall?

Then at the last minute, some winder-warsher elder gets his panties in a bunch because you two were married before, and you did the whole DA thing once, so you're really not setting a chaste example, and hey, maybe we better re-think this letting you have the "privilege" of having your Dub infomercial second wedding in our puce and burnt orange meditteranean themed, lavendar bathroom with the paradise mural, faux wood stage and fashion understatement floor-scrubber speaker Kingdom hall?

Ugh, I think I'm going to call the dentist, I need a root canal. My $.68.

Odrade

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JW Books giveaway

by refiners fire in

anyone wants the following books pm me.

studies in the scriptures volumes 1 to 4. hardback.

unmarked.

Odrade

Ballistic, I've got it, I think. You looking for the original version or the revised? I might have a copy of the original too.

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My new wesbite!

by blaid in

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thanks to sens for the hosting!!!.

its still in development though =d

Odrade

Hey Blaid, will you be my little brother? I need a new one.

Odrade

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JW marriages: happy/unhappy

by starfish422 in

i've been wondering how many jws have gotten married too quickly, without knowing their prospective "mate" well enough, and have ended up really unhappy.

it always seemed to me that a couple would be dating for, like, 6 or 9 months and get engaged, have a 9 month engagement and be married; often because they bought the "no sex before marriage" garbage.

i'm sure that there *are* happy jw marriages out there; and certainly being unhappily married isn't the sole property of jws.

Odrade

JT-- some great stuff here. I agree that the very things the JWs value are the things that put strain on the marriage. My husband and I have a very good marriage, IN SPITE of having started it out as good little Dubbies. We bent/broke alot of the rules, pursued a decent living, and vacations/comfort. But the fact remained that many our (albeit infrequent) disagreements were about the roles we were "supposed" to be playing as witnesses.

"You need to take the lead." "You need to take me to meetings." "You need to study more with me." Yep, that was me all the time harranguing him about being a better Witness, although deep down, the things I valued about him were the very non-JW traits--his value for education, logical thought, wanting to spend time with ME, not a watchtower...

He also put pressure on the relationship over JW issues... being very unhappy with the guilt of knowing he was just going through the motions to keep me and family happier.

We are still under pressure even though we are out, due to family issues. But we have a much better relationship now that we are living in the real world. So weighing in on the question... I would vote: unhappier, because of the unrealistic pressures that are fused with the normal issues of being married.

Odrade

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Is the "minister" at your door a convicted rapist? In Seattle, it will be!

by Nathan Natas in

jury rejects plea to keep rapist locked away

he's set free, not declared a sexually violent offender

tuesday, october 7, 2003

Odrade

I am astounded that "frequent counseling sessions" with "fellow Jehovah's Witnesses" (unnamed "untrained volunteers") was thought to have some significance in re: his therapy. I just hope it is only the reporter's opinion expressed about this and not the court's opinion.
Were these "fellow" JWs also prison inmates?

More to the point... were these men trained or licensed counsellors? Unlikely. These are complex psychological issues that cannot be resolved by learning the scripture "Deaden, therefore, your body members." A level 3 sexual offender? (predator?)

Yes, it is time for some sort of permit process or regulation, past time in fact. His obligation to "Jehovah" (read: WTS) will have him out knocking on doors. The JW propensity to "leave it in Jehovah's hands" may also have him going to these doors unattended by his "fellow JWs." They will see nothing out of line with this. If he re-offends, they must morally assume some of the responsibility for presenting their bible studies as "counselling sessions" adequate to address his psychological deviance, in such a way that he was able to meet the requirements for early release before a parole board.

A license and photo ID is no longer out of line. Matter of public safety.

Odrade

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It's a baby shower!

by Princess in

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friends

most of you know who dim is.

he lives here in the seattle area after moving from philly to escape the borg.

an admirable move.

Odrade

I'd love to, but can't make the date. Girl you say? I've got a cute thing or two. Friend surprised me and had a boy. I was going to return them, but I'd rather send to DIM. :)

Anyone from Portland want to haul my little gift up there with them?

Odrade

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Questions for consideration: Society's move to Patterson

by truthseeker in

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no doubt many of you are aware of the new project that society is taking on, regarding it's expansion of it's patterson complex, the sale or soon to be sale of its brooklyn building and the new printing presses that cost $50 million.. .

i haven't really thought about why they are doing this, but now i do, some questions come to mind.

i have no answers and would be grateful if someone could give me their best guess.. 1) new york is the best center for transporting goods, you have three airports, rail links and major highways.

Odrade

Actually, the new expansion is taking place at Wallkill. WTS has shipped from two locations in the past, Wallkill and Brooklyn. The new presses will supposedly save time and labor, reducing the need for volunteers. Also money saving--less waste, ink, etc. It will consolidate production and shipping.

My personal opinion is that by moving most of the Bethelites from the city, they will reduce the flow of Bethelites leaving the Organization with "insider information." The Wallkill complex is fairly insular, so there is not the accessibility of "normal" activities for the young brothers that city Bethelites have. The less of real life that they see, the easier it is to keep them within their programming.

Odrade

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Why Lady "C" and JT have no Kids- WT Style

by JT in

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*** g74 11/8 ***9 is this the time to have children?

there has always been a positive attitude about childbearing.

families with many children have been praised and honored.

Odrade

Yeah, I'll vouch for it too. Everytime my mom hears about anyone who is expecting a baby, she says "Oh no!" and pulls this long sad face. She even does it if the couple wanted and was trying to have children. She would probably do it if I had a child too. Having children, evidently, is bad. It's a good thing she had hers before she was baptized, huh?

Odrade