It's a "cause" that I won't drop. I know I'm not the only one who feels like this, and I'm pretty sick of seeing people demanding that new posters (and established) reveal themselves or be thought a troll. Since your discussion is about forcible "outing" and since you are one of the people who wanted another poster to give up her anonymity to satisfy your paranoia, I think this is a perfectly acceptable place to discuss it.
Posts by Odrade
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79Warning To All Posters Here!!!
by SWALKER ini just found out that a dear friend of mine was outed by a poster on this board!!!
i am soooooo angry and disgusted it's hard to contain at the moment!
so to all those out there that are trying to fade and get other family members out, don't let anyone know who you are!!!
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Warning To All Posters Here!!!
by SWALKER ini just found out that a dear friend of mine was outed by a poster on this board!!!
i am soooooo angry and disgusted it's hard to contain at the moment!
so to all those out there that are trying to fade and get other family members out, don't let anyone know who you are!!!
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Odrade
:::JWD should have an authenticated user mechanism whereby if you are happy to be identified everybody else can see who you are, and validate you.
Why? All that would do is foster the paranoia we've already seen. If a new poster comes on this site with an interesting or dramatic story, and is unwilling to allow themselves be "verified" due to wishing to retain some anonymity, they could be vilified and viewed with suspicion, with demands to "verify" themselves somehow would be hurled at them by the same people that are howling about getting outed.
It amounts to the same thing. Demands to prove identity are nearly as abusive as "outing" someone.
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Elders breaking ecclesiastical privelege.
by avishai inhow often have you seen this happen?
seems like even when i was a little kid, i'd find out why someone got df'd.
usually almost immediately.
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Odrade
Avi, there was a talk given like that in a hall we attended about 8 years ago. It was extremely cryptic, and the only thing we could guess was that someone "important" had done something, and they were threatening whoever knew to keep their mouths shut. It was weird because the gossip mill is almost its own entity. Ha!
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How are American Small businesses at a disadvantage?
by wanderlustguy ini've read this on the thread about minimum wage, and i own a small business, have run several small businesses (under 100 employees) and feel this is one of the easiest, least restrictive, and most profitable business demographics to be in.
as a matter of fact, i do even better the smaller the business is.
so...first off...do you own your own small business?
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Odrade
Yep, small business. Sometimes I love it, sometimes it's a pain in the butt. Recently tried my hand at being an employer, I HATED that, so I'm back to just me. I don't know precisely if I'm "disadvantaged," but it seems that the paperwork hoops a small business owner has to jump through, can be a bit excessive. However, even after taxes, I come out ahead of where I would be if I worked for someone else doing the exact same thing, so I'm happy.
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IP adress
by vitty inwhat happens when you move location ?
does your ip change or is it your personal computer number and it stays the same wherever you are ?.
yes i am that thick.
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Odrade
And regular posters DO NOT have access to that function. Thus, the encrypted IPs are not any kind of proof of imposters.
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WELCOME NEWBIES - all of you! Check in here, I'm losing track of you.
by AWAKE&WATCHING ini just saw the eighth post by botheyesopen.
i noticed aliciaj, dogaradodya, chicken little, cognac, hypnotic, mochalatte.. some have been welcomed and some have not.. .
we have so many i can't keep up so.... .
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Odrade
ROTFLMAO @ sooner7. "nudie" lol!
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IP adress
by vitty inwhat happens when you move location ?
does your ip change or is it your personal computer number and it stays the same wherever you are ?.
yes i am that thick.
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Odrade
I post from home and work, and have two different service providers. Thus, two different IPs. Also, every few months or so, the IP changes. If you use a dynamic IP, it could be different everytime. There are several service providers that use batches, so if a forum were to ban a specific IP, for instance, it could affect a whole range of members who post from that particular service provider.
Incidentally, the number/letter combo at the bottom of your posts is NOT an IP, it's an encryption.
An IP address looks like this: 45.345.345.11
If you have a real IP address and want to look someone up, depending on their security, you could conceivably find a person. However, most Internet Providers are smarter than that, and provide a measure of security along with the service. For instance, a person with MY specific IP address could determine that my provider is in Oregon, who my internet service provider is, that I have a "highly anonymous" connection, that I do not use a proxy server, and a map stamp will put you down about 3-4 miles from home. The packet that comes through with my husband's work email says he's in Colorado. (I'm pretty sure that's not true, cause there's a guy in the other room that looks just like my husband...) So it's clearly not foolproof.
If you look through the archives here, there was a very LARGE, LONG witchhunt that went on about 3 years ago, where it was discovered that a number of well-known posters had the same encrypted IP "identifier" at the bottom of their posts. It turns out that they were not all "THE SAME PERSON", which I'm certain the webmaster/site owner knew, but was not generally understood by parts of the membership. Some of these members use AOL as their internet provider.
From AOL:
AOL Members' requests for internet objects are usually handled by the AOL Proxy system. When a member requests multiple documents for multiple URLs, each request may come from a different proxy server. Since one proxy server can have multiple members going to one site, webmasters should not make assumptions about the relationship between members and proxy servers when designing their web site.This means that if you use AOL and are from about the same area, it's highly possible that you will have the same IP identifier.
Thus, those little numbers at the bottom of the posts are NOT a reliable way of identifying imposters.
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Warning To All Posters Here!!!
by SWALKER ini just found out that a dear friend of mine was outed by a poster on this board!!!
i am soooooo angry and disgusted it's hard to contain at the moment!
so to all those out there that are trying to fade and get other family members out, don't let anyone know who you are!!!
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Odrade
:::This thread is about outing people.
Yes, it is. As such, the point is relevant. Outing people is wrong, whether someone does it TO another poster, or FORCES the poster to do it to themselves as a defense against irrational paranoia.
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Warning To All Posters Here!!!
by SWALKER ini just found out that a dear friend of mine was outed by a poster on this board!!!
i am soooooo angry and disgusted it's hard to contain at the moment!
so to all those out there that are trying to fade and get other family members out, don't let anyone know who you are!!!
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Odrade
Even sadder is when ignorant people pile onto newbie posters with NO proof whatsoever, just a "gut feeling" based on nothing, and claim that an apology will be forthcoming when the newbie proves (outs) themselves. Pretty disgusting.
It is dead wrong to out someone on this forum who needs or wants to maintain anonymity for any reason and is not causing real-time damage to other posters. It is EQUALLY WRONG to try and FORCE some poster about whom you have UNFOUNDED SUSPICIONS to expose themselves here so that you can satisfy yourself that they are "verified" and "real." That is what makes it hypocritical.
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Warning To All Posters Here!!!
by SWALKER ini just found out that a dear friend of mine was outed by a poster on this board!!!
i am soooooo angry and disgusted it's hard to contain at the moment!
so to all those out there that are trying to fade and get other family members out, don't let anyone know who you are!!!
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Odrade
Whoops, sorry, I stand corrected. You didn't demand she out herself. You only suggested she was a liar and a fraud. My bad. Apologies.