That made me really angry. I hate that guy, he's an ass. Looks like the lunatics are still running the asylum. I can't believe that the JWs (including my parents) try to claim that the WTS has "softened" its position on education. Did you see at the end where he told that bogus "experience" of the kid who tried to commit suicide by rifle in the mouth, the bullet didn't kill him, just took out part of his brain... and THAT is what he's comparing college with? Also, he stated how proud everyone would be of the people who DROPPED OUT of university.
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Even active witnesses think this is way over the top.....
by yourmomma inthere were gasps after watching this.
i heard the anti college talks at the dc this year, and while many people i know didnt agree with them, this following video stunned many of them.
there are many people on this forum, many have gotten to where they are many different ways.
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Now this cracked me up...and then it gets better
by RisingEagle inso i'm tickled at this story from another site i visit:.
a story i heard.... one day my mother was out and my dad was in charge of me.
i was maybe 2 1/2 years old and had just recovered from an accident.
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Odrade
HAHAHA! that's the best! gotta love kids...
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Business v. friendship
by sweetface2233 ini have touched on this subject in public a few times and have discussed in detail w/ a few posters exactly what happened between my former best friend and i. to make a long story short, he borrowed money from me (several thousand $) and, in my opinion, carelessly went on a spending spree w/in the next several months.
i confronted him about it, and essentially was given the boot due to it.
at first, i was practically devestated (just like any break-up from a ltr), but now i am over it and have been able to give more focus to my other friends, as well as make new ones.. he and i had minimal contact since the beginning of august to the beginning of january.
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Odrade
What ways are they able to take you for granted and walk all over you? Time? Interests? You always do what the other person wants?
For myself, until/unless I'm able to pin down HOW I'm being taken advantage of, it's not likely I'll figure out how to stop it. I'll just keep going through the same scenario but with different people. Kinda sucks.
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Business v. friendship
by sweetface2233 ini have touched on this subject in public a few times and have discussed in detail w/ a few posters exactly what happened between my former best friend and i. to make a long story short, he borrowed money from me (several thousand $) and, in my opinion, carelessly went on a spending spree w/in the next several months.
i confronted him about it, and essentially was given the boot due to it.
at first, i was practically devestated (just like any break-up from a ltr), but now i am over it and have been able to give more focus to my other friends, as well as make new ones.. he and i had minimal contact since the beginning of august to the beginning of january.
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Odrade
So here's a question: When you make friends with someone (guys or gals,) do you routinely feel compelled to give them things that have tangible value? (Lending money, gifts that cost money, your business skills at no charge, etc?) Can you have a friendship where you don't give anything except friendship?
I ask because it seems to be a common thing where people seem to think that they have to prove their friendship by giving something of monetary value. Maybe you've kind of slid into that feeling, and now you have people coming around who take advantage of your generosity instead of being just interested in your friendship?
Could you make a rule for yourself that you will not give gifts worth more than $5 (or whatever) until you are sure you have a clear idea of where your personal boundaries are, and how to get them to work? (just brainstorming... I have a lot of trouble with this one too.)
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Business v. friendship
by sweetface2233 ini have touched on this subject in public a few times and have discussed in detail w/ a few posters exactly what happened between my former best friend and i. to make a long story short, he borrowed money from me (several thousand $) and, in my opinion, carelessly went on a spending spree w/in the next several months.
i confronted him about it, and essentially was given the boot due to it.
at first, i was practically devestated (just like any break-up from a ltr), but now i am over it and have been able to give more focus to my other friends, as well as make new ones.. he and i had minimal contact since the beginning of august to the beginning of january.
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Odrade
Can you tell him that you can only re-visit the idea of friendship if the lines regarding the loan can be kept completely clear and separate? He may be under the impression that you are ONLY upset with him over the money, and since he's repaying the money responsibly, things should be a-okay with the two of you socially too.
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Top Gear Goes to America
by 5go init's a sad comentary on america to say the least.
but damn funny!.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8133720312520034070&q=top+gear+america&total=266&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0.
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Odrade
I hadn't seen that ep. It was unbelievable! I'm from the NW, and it was like watching a different world. I figured they'd have people yelling, but the rocks, pitbulls, and being chased out? They were actually scared...
"Don't go to America."
Most interesting part to me is where they were showing the regular street devastation from Katrina, a year after the event. They commented that the "richest nation in the world," hasn't taken care of it yet. Sad, but true. But then you hear what they say about the woman who was going to sue for allegedly misrepresenting the free car as a 1991 when it was an '89, unless they handed her $20K, and then it's easy to see why it stays the way it is.
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Top Gear Goes to America
by 5go init's a sad comentary on america to say the least.
but damn funny!.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8133720312520034070&q=top+gear+america&total=266&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0.
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Odrade
LOVE that show!
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PO kids
by memphisbelle inthis is pretty amazing !
this girl is the daughter of a man who was a major elder in a local cong.
for years, he had no problem telling anyone within earshot how to raise their children, and tel them what they were doing wrong, and what wonderful pioneer - missionaries his kids were going to be.
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Odrade
account deleted?
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Chiropractic
by sass_my_frass ini have always suspected that chiropractic is a total crock.
the concept that having your backbone crackled a little bit every month will control your blood pressure, cure your asthma and keep you mobile and flu-free until you're 120 seems farfetched, and yet all my life every time i have had a headache i have been inclined to set up an appointment.. i've really only been in serious pain three times; some bad neck pain which cleared up after a depressing relationship, some lumbar pain from a bad lift incident which cleared up after three weeks of wiggling around on a fitball while i was watching tv in the evening, and some weird shoulder pain which cleared up when i rejoined a gym.
i have wasted a lot of money for many years - chiropractic just wasn't there for me.
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Odrade
Depends on the chiropractor. Any chiro who tries to set you up on an extended "contract" is a crook. A good chiro will not make outrageous claims about "curing all your ailments with spinal adjustment."
I'm a huge believer AND a huge skeptic. I will not see a chiro who tells me I have to come in multiple times a week for months on end, especially if he hasn't examined me yet. I use chiropractic, occasionally, as needed for migraines (I have a rotated atlas- top vertebra, it's clearly abnormal on xray, even without anyone pointing it out. Makes the cranial foramen magnum look like a lopsided ellipse instead of a near circle.) It works for me, but I do NOT have to go all the time, just when I feel certain symptoms, and can palpate a knot in one area on my neck.
I also have clients who occasionally see chiropractors. Sometimes I send them for an adjustment because things feel "wrong" and they are having a spasm in the area. Usually one or two adjustments corrects it. I also have clients who have gone for adjustments every week for years. They are in really bad shape, I believe because of the over-treatment.
So very mixed feelings. If your gut tells you the chiro you are seeing is a crook, run away. Anyways, he fired you because you couldn't be sold oceanfront property in Arizona. Good for you.
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Odrade
Ha! So this is the last WT study from the "old format," right? So the next one should be "REALLY HARD," right? Well, that's what an elder told me anyways, that when the new "members only" study Watchtower came out that the articles would be much deeper. Ha! We'll see about that... I suppose it won't take much to top this one.