6%!!! I know of LOTS of divorces. Way more than 6% of my acquaintances. Maybe more like 25%. Where is that figure from? Is it propaganda? (Not propaganda from you of course J, but it seems like a fallacious figure to me.)
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9A few statistics on divorce in the US
by JH inadults between 25 and 34 years old never married in 1998:
percentage of people that married under the age of 20 who eventually get divorced as of 1995:
percentage of people that married over the age of 25 who eventually get divorced as of 1995:
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Pulled out of Sex Ed classes
by Nosferatu infor those of you who had a jw childhood, were you pulled out of sex education classes?
did it bother your conscience if school surprised you with one?
after being deprived from sex knowledge and since the society doesn't make diagrams, how did you learn about it?
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Sex ed classes for us were pretty conservative (except for touchy-feely day with birth control methods.--HA!) My parents "allowed" me to take that portion of health class, then used it to point up how "balanced" they were. Par for them. However, I had already learned all about it from the fiction I read. I was a voracious reader (still am) and parents weren't. You can learn alot of stuff from the classics. Anyways, one day my mom found a certain book by a popular author, and knew it had a sexual reference in it because it had been made into a movie that she had seen before she came into the "truth." (**breathe**) She went BALLISTIC!!! This was the same year as the sex-ed unit. I have to believe that if they had known the well-rounded content of that class, they would never have permitted me to attend. Fortunately, when I later "went off the deep end," things I learned there protected me until I got my feet again.
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"Placement" Publications
by Odrade inwhat does one do with their old placement literature.
it looks like a kingdom hall book room around here, and i don't know how to get rid of the stuff, other than a midnight "drop and run" at the local kh.
not the most desirable option, as the kh is guarded by some old circuit servants in an apartment.. odrade
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I don't really want to sell on e-bay, not worth the trouble and hard to maintain anonimity there as a seller. I have an ethical problem with just throwing them away, there's already so much in landfills. But if I recycle, it sits out on the curb on collection day until noon or later. My luck the dubs would be working the neighborhood that day. I'd be happy to send anything to folks who want stuff for research, but am at a loss on how to list it or dispose of it ecologically.
I really don't need or want any $$ for the books. I never donated for them anyways. I figured the "donation arrangement" put the onus on the householder to support the "cost of printing." If I got something for a placement, I contributed that only. So no skin off my nose (or $$ out of my pocket, as it were.)
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"Placement" Publications
by Odrade inwhat does one do with their old placement literature.
it looks like a kingdom hall book room around here, and i don't know how to get rid of the stuff, other than a midnight "drop and run" at the local kh.
not the most desirable option, as the kh is guarded by some old circuit servants in an apartment.. odrade
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ROTFL!!! Already tried that. Takes too long. I have an entire packing box of just brand new stuff dating back to Live Forever book (large size). The mags, I mostly just took to recycling. Can't burn the books, covers won't go in my fireplace. Can't have a bonfire where we live. Don't want to stash the stuff in the attic... what to do, what to do...
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"Placement" Publications
by Odrade inwhat does one do with their old placement literature.
it looks like a kingdom hall book room around here, and i don't know how to get rid of the stuff, other than a midnight "drop and run" at the local kh.
not the most desirable option, as the kh is guarded by some old circuit servants in an apartment.. odrade
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What does one do with their old placement literature. It looks like a kingdom hall book room around here, and I don't know how to get rid of the stuff, other than a midnight "drop and run" at the local KH. Not the most desirable option, as the KH is guarded by some old circuit servants in an apartment.
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Do You See In Yourself Continuing Jehovah's Witness Traits?
by minimus infor all of those either out or on their way to the freedom exit door, do you still see traces of your old jw self that rears its ugly head?
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AAAAHHH!! (runs screaming to the windows, hides behind curtains) Hey! the Dubs are working my neighborhood RIGHT NOW! Who ratted me out??!! (sneaks out back door)
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Goodbye Hair.
by CoolBreeze ini haven't posted in a long time, but i did say i'd pop in every once in a while if i had something of significance to say.
well i thought this was significant enough to share.. a few weeks ago in a moment of altruism i had my hair tested for the "locks of love" program, which is a hair donation program for chemotherapy patients who have lost their hair.
today i received a letter stating that my hair meets all the requirements for donation.
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That's the nicest thing I've heard today, (maybe all week). Thanks for sharing.
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Do You See In Yourself Continuing Jehovah's Witness Traits?
by minimus infor all of those either out or on their way to the freedom exit door, do you still see traces of your old jw self that rears its ugly head?
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Inequality and unfairness, absolutely. In the several subsequent halls I attended as an adult, I was never accepted. Good enough to go in service, but not good enough to go to lunch. I always felt like I was on probation. Plus we started seeing lots of stuff that began to break down my illusions of the "cleanliness of the Org." But I think I made excuses for much longer than normal people would, just because of that first congregation. I couldn't believe "Jehovah's people" would behave that way, so it must be an exception.
I think the biggest trait I've taken away though, is paranoia. I tend to think people are much more interested in my life than they really are. Probably because you grow up in a group that meddles with the most intimate aspects of your life, then rats you out if you have a little more lenient conscience. I have to remind myself that, in normal society, people are more or less free to lead their own lives.
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My Wife Says She'll Read Franz' Crisis Of Conscien
by minimus inmajor headway has been made.
my wife has said that she would like to read coc!
i recently bought 30 years a watchtower slave.
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Yep, then he passed it on to me. I made him return it to the local library a couple days late so I could read it too. Made me mad as hell, but I sure felt a lot less guilty about wanting out after that. Thanks P!
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Are people at bethel allowed to stay as long as they want ??? time limit ??
by run dont walk inbut in general aren't most people only there a few years, is there a certain time you are allowed to be there then have to move on ???
and move on where ???.
does anyone know how the system works ???.
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When you apply, you are asked to commit to one year. Once you are done with new boy training you can stay as long as you want as long as you remain in good standing spiritually, stay single or (if accepted as a married couple) don't have kids. If you are single and want to get married, you and your spouse to be must re-apply. If you go later in life as a TEMP you may stay as long as they continue to renew your invitation--basically until you get old or the job ends.
There's always lots of grunt work for eager young boys, and there is enough attrition to keep the ranks down to a manageable population. Remember, many who apply get a rejection letter ("Try again in a year, thank you.")
Moving up happens just like in the congregation, although my personal opinion is that once you hit "Bethel Elder" that's usually it for bethelites, whereas in the regular congregation one can pursue sub- CO work, then C.O. then D.O., then special invite to Bethel, then committee work... you get the idea.
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