Posts by Blueblades

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You Are NOT Disfellowedshipped! Yet.

by Blueblades in

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if you were disfellowedshipped after you made an appeal by the appeal committee,you are not yet disfellowedshipped!.

in the elder flock book there is a little known "right" that the rank and file are not told when they lose their appeal.. that is that you have the "right"to appeal an appeal.you can request the appeal committee to forward their decision to the branch office and have them review all the decisions once again.. however ,when the appeal committee hides this "right"from you and does not inform you about this "right"there is an error in judgment on their part.. hence you are "not"disfellowedshipped when denied this "right"as outlined in the flock book for elders to follow when hearing an appeal.. i know that as far as the announcement that is made prior to this "right"everyone will treat you as such,not knowing that there has been a miscarriage of justice against you.. it is true that the branch office may uphold the appeal decision,but, that is not the issue here.. has anyone ever used this "right" or,been told of it by the appeal committee and had their decisions overturned.in the case of a family member we were not told.. blueblades

Blueblades

This information can be found in unit 5 ( c ) part 2.Appealing judicial decisions.

When the disfellowshipping is upheld by the appeal committee there is no further "RIGHT" to appeal.

However,if an individual persists in believing a serious error in judgment has occurred,the appeal committee should inform him that he may submit his allegations in writing to the appeal committee within 7 days for transmittal to the branch office.So there IS a "RIGHT" TO APPEAL FURTHER???

The appeal committee will include this statement along with information being sent to the branch office."No announcement of disfellowshipping should be made until observations are received from the branch office.

Did you notice that the individual may submit his "ALLEGATIONS"????for "TRANSMITTAL"???? Lets see ,you believe a serious error in judgment has occurred and yet it is called an allegation!!!! Anyway,you are not disfellowedshipped yet.Until "OBSERVATIONS" are received from the branch committee,whom you will never appear before?????

AND THIS IS CALLED JUSTICE!!!!!!!!??????

Blueblades

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You Are NOT Disfellowedshipped! Yet.

by Blueblades in

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if you were disfellowedshipped after you made an appeal by the appeal committee,you are not yet disfellowedshipped!.

in the elder flock book there is a little known "right" that the rank and file are not told when they lose their appeal.. that is that you have the "right"to appeal an appeal.you can request the appeal committee to forward their decision to the branch office and have them review all the decisions once again.. however ,when the appeal committee hides this "right"from you and does not inform you about this "right"there is an error in judgment on their part.. hence you are "not"disfellowedshipped when denied this "right"as outlined in the flock book for elders to follow when hearing an appeal.. i know that as far as the announcement that is made prior to this "right"everyone will treat you as such,not knowing that there has been a miscarriage of justice against you.. it is true that the branch office may uphold the appeal decision,but, that is not the issue here.. has anyone ever used this "right" or,been told of it by the appeal committee and had their decisions overturned.in the case of a family member we were not told.. blueblades

Blueblades

If you were disfellowedshipped after you made an appeal by the appeal committee,you are NOT yet disfellowedshipped!

In the elder flock book there is a little known "RIGHT" that the rank and file are not told when they lose their appeal.

That is that you have the "RIGHT"to appeal an appeal.You can request the appeal committee to forward their decision to the Branch office and have them review all the decisions once again.

However ,when the appeal committee hides this "RIGHT"from you and does not inform you about this "RIGHT"there is an error in judgment on their part.

Hence you are "NOT"disfellowedshipped when denied this "RIGHT"as outlined in the flock book for elders to follow when hearing an appeal.

I know that as far as the announcement that is made prior to this "RIGHT"everyone will treat you as such,not knowing that there has been a miscarriage of justice against you.

It is true that the branch office may uphold the appeal decision,but, that is not the issue here.

Has anyone ever used this "RIGHT" or,been told of it by the appeal committee and had their decisions overturned.In the case of a family member we were not told.

Blueblades

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Have you experienced Satan?

by Blueblades in

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recently i asked:have you experienced god?and many of you responded.the question was not intended to prove that god exists,or,doesn't.rather, what each persons own experience meant for them.. now,i thought that it would be only fair to ask:have you experienced satan?again not to prove that satan exists or dosen't.rather what each persons own experience meant for them.. maybe some have experienced both,god and satan at different times,or can you tell the difference?.

blueblades

Blueblades

Recently I asked:Have you experienced God?And many of you responded.The question was not intended to prove that God exists,or,doesn't.Rather, what each persons own experience meant for them.

Now,I thought that it would be only fair to ask:Have you experienced Satan?Again not to prove that Satan exists or dosen't.Rather what each persons own experience meant for them.

Maybe some have experienced both,God and Satan at different times,or can you tell the difference?

Blueblades

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True Bible Doctrines Part 1

by hooberus in

there is alot of exposing false doctrines on here lately, i thought i'd take a different approach and show a series of true bible doctines.

the word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the lord jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that god hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

romans 10:8-9. .

Blueblades

Hi HOOBERUS,Please help me out here.For anything about Jesus to be a TRUE BIBLE DOCTRINE,it first has to be established that the Bible itself is TRUE.

Since there are many for and against the Bible, errancy vs.inerrancy,etc.How do you establish TRUE BIBLE DOCTRINE to begin with.

Blueblades

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The Human Potential.

by Blueblades in

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can life retain it's potential meaning in spite of its tragic aspects?.

such as the pain ,guilt and death that we all experience.the human potential allows us to yes to life in spite of everything,making the best of any given situation.. "the human potential ,when at its best allows for us to turn suffering into a human achievement and accomplishment;to derive from guilt the opportunity to change oneself for the better;and deriving from life's transitoriness an incentive to take responsible action.

" viktor e.frankl.. now,for those of you who are former jw's and have suffered pain in all its forms,felt guilt,and feel the transitoriness of life,years lost etc.have you developed your human potential,are you able to make the best of any given situation, are you able to yes to life in spite of everything that has happened to you or what?.

Blueblades

Can life retain it's potential meaning in spite of its tragic aspects?

Such as the pain ,guilt and death that we all experience.The human potential allows us to yes to life in spite of everything,making the best of any given situation.

"The human potential ,when at its best allows for us to turn suffering into a human achievement and accomplishment;to derive from guilt the opportunity to change oneself for the better;and deriving from life's transitoriness an incentive to take responsible action." Viktor E.Frankl.

Now,for those of you who are former JW'S and have suffered pain in all its forms,felt guilt,and feel the transitoriness of life,years lost etc.Have you developed your human potential,are you able to make the best of any given situation, are you able to yes to life in spite of everything that has happened to you or what?

Blueblades

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WHY DOES THE 'PHONE ALWAYS RING WHEN I'M ON THE LOO?

by Dansk in

it's a bugger isn't it!

Blueblades

Hi DANSK, Good thing Ehud didn't come into the LOO.He helped Eglon ease nature.That's one guy you don't want calling you on the phone. ( Judges 3:18-25 )

Of cause that's only if the Bible is based on fact.In this case you could say that the story about Eglon is full of --it.

Blueblades

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Crossing Over,with John Edwards !

by Blueblades in

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do you know someone who had this experience?.

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Blueblades

I want to thank everyone for their comments

.I myself am skeptical.

I loss my sister at 26yrs old,Mom died in my arms,Dad died while talking to me on the phone.

I have never heard from them again.

I was very close to all three.

Why would they go through a complete stranger and not directly to me?

Blueblades

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Famous Last Words

by Blueblades in

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sooner or later it happens to all of us.the time comes for us to draw our last breath and pass from this life into the next.over the years history has recorded some fascinating "famous last words"...here are a few.. "i've never felt better".douglas fairbanks,sr.,actor.. "iam about to----or i am going to-----die;either expression is correct".dominique bouhours,french grammarian.. "don't let it end like this.tell them i said something.

"pancho villa,mexican revolutionary.. "all my possessions for a moment of time!

"elizabeth 1,queen of england.. "everybody has got to die,but i have always believed an exception would be made in my case.now what?

Blueblades

Sooner or later it happens to all of us.The time comes for us to draw our last breath and pass from this life into the next.Over the years history has recorded some fascinating "Famous Last Words"...Here are a few.

"I've never felt better".Douglas Fairbanks,Sr.,actor.

"Iam about to----or I am going to-----die;either expression is correct".Dominique Bouhours,French Grammarian.

"Don't let it end like this.Tell them I said something."Pancho Villa,Mexican Revolutionary.

"All my possessions for a moment of time!"Elizabeth 1,Queen of England.

"Everybody has got to die,but I have always believed an exception would be made in my case.Now what?"William Saroyan,Pulitzer Prize winning author/playwright.

"Oh my poor soul,what is to become of you?Where do you go?"Cardinal Mazarin.

"Up until this time,I thought that there was no God,neither Hell.Now I know and feel that there are both,and that I am delivered to perdition by the righteous judgment of the Almighty".Sir Thomas Scott,Chancellor of England.

"I die hard,but I am not afraid to go".George Washington,President of the United States.

I am still in the land of the dying,I shall be in the land of the living soon".John Newton,slave-trader-turned-pastor and hymn-writer.

These words were expressed by men and woman standing on the very threshold of eternity.Some were prepared.They had made their peace with God.But others were completely caught off guard.They were not ready to go.Their last moments were filled with uncertainty--even fear and dread.

Do you know of other famous last words and or what yours might be?

Blueblades

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Crossing Over,with John Edwards !

by Blueblades in

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do you know someone who had this experience?.

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Blueblades

Do you believe it? Do you know someone who had this experience?

Blueblades

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Have You Ever Experienced God?

by Blueblades in

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with all the confusion between both camps when it comes to discussing god,the bible,and jesus,including the various doctrinal matters,a friend of mind told me none of it matters to him because he has evidence of god's existence through his personal experience with god.. when i asked him about it he said he couldn't explain it that i would have to experience it for myself.i told him it has never ever happened to me.. have you ever experienced god so that you could lay to rest all the why for's of things and just settle down and go on with the rest of your life and face death with confidence knowing beyond a doubt that you will be with god when you pass on.. blueblades

Blueblades

With all the confusion between both camps when it comes to discussing God,the Bible,and Jesus,including the various doctrinal matters,a friend of mind told me none of it matters to him because he has evidence of God's existence through his personal experience with God.

When I asked him about it he said he couldn't explain it that I would have to experience it for myself.I told him it has never ever happened to me.

Have you ever experienced God so that you could lay to rest all the why for's of things and just settle down and go on with the rest of your life and face death with confidence knowing beyond a doubt that you will be with God when you pass on.

Blueblades