Much nicer is "The way to a man's heart is through his stomack".The woman out there know what this means.
Seriously Logan the other slogan seems to apply to the WT.Socities way of doing things.It is the carrot that got them by the .....
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"When you've got 'em by the balls their hearts and minds will follow"
by logansrun ini was watching one of my favorite movies the other day -- "all the president's men" -- when this fabulous statement was made : "when you've got 'em by the balls their hearts and minds will follow.
how true.
makes me think of the drones in the land of dub.
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Part 2 of "Apostate Logical Fallacies"
by logansrun inapostate logical fallacies part 2 of 2
in my first essay on common fallacies former jehovahs witnesses commit in reference to the society i explained the error of generalizing individual witness behavior to that of the entire society.
the other errors i notice (to a certain degree i realize they are my opinions) are related to this, yet somewhat different.
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There is structure in all kinds of organizations.Education: From the day-care,to the kindergarten to the grade schools,high schools,colleges, universities etc.
From the Religions,Baptisms,communions,confirmations,schoolings in doctrines etc.
From the Political AND Governmental to the Military and any other examples you can use.
This structure is controlling the masses,good,or, bad take your pick.In all of it we decide what we will do with this stuctural learning.
We hold on to some of it and let some of it go.
With the WATCHTOWER SOCIETY I have chosen to let it all go.There is an accountability for all the harm,some fatal ,some ongoing,no matter how you try to find some good inside this controlling cult that is responsible for the tremendous blood guilt and robbing of peoples lives.By holding out the never-ending "CARROT" that is not there.Use of that carrot has also made them into a Billion Dollar Org.that forsakes anyone who would ask them an honest question.
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ON MARCH 26,1918 SATAN WAS HURLED DOWN TO THE EART
by minimus inaccording to the your will be done book ..."there is scriptural reason to believe that by the time of the annual celebration of the lord's evening meal on march 26, 1918, satan the devil was hurled down to the earth.
"now this must have been quite the war, since we are taught that by october 1 or 2 1914, satan was waging war with michael and he was thrown to the vicinity of the earth.
that is why since 1914 we have such a short time left.....how do they get these crazy dates and how can people believe this if they really think about it?
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One problem with this scenario is that a number of text in the Bible clearly show that Jesus was already enthroned in heaven at the time of his resurrection and exaltation.
Rev:3:21,Colossians 1:13,14.Matt.28:18,"All authority has been given me in heaven and on earth".
Past tense "has been given"shows that at that time Jesus already was in possession of all authority or power in heaven and on earth.What additional power,then,could possibly have remained to be given him in 1914?
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To Jehovah's Witnesses, Jehovah and Satan Are EQUAL
by minimus injw's always say that we better watch out because satan the devil is always looking at us to try to devour us.
we are told not to get involved with anything that is against god's will because satan is constantly looking at us to trick us into serving him.
satan is so powerful that he influences billions of people.
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Mass movements can arise and spread without belief in a God,but never without belief in a devil.Usually the strength of a mass movement is proportionate to the vividness and tangibility of its devil.It is essential to have a tangible enemy,not merely an abstract one.
Eric hoffer.The True Believer.
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The Gospel
by UnDisfellowshipped inthe gospel of salvation -- the good news of jesus christ:
plain and simple, according to the holy scriptures
if you have any questions or comments, please e-mail me at [email protected].
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This thread started out by saying ,"The Gospel of Salvation-The Good News of Jesus Christ:Plain and Simple.
The six pages of responses demonstrates that this topic is not so plain and simple.
It is based on a belief system,and ,or,a personal experience of some.As,has been acknowledge by UNDY.It is based on information that has been handed down through the centuries in a book that is highly suspect and has caused mass confusion by the best of scholars pro and con.
So, unless one was actually to get a verification from God himself,it is all about chasing after the "Carrot".
Who does not want life under the best of conditions to be shared with their loved ones.The underlining reason for loving God is the "Carrot".He holds the KEY to Eternal Life and if you want that carrot you do it his way,no free will,if you choose your way,you don't get the carrot.
Meanwhile all of mankind grows old gets sick suffers horribly,most are not 'Christians'believe other men and teachings and then all die! Without any comfort or answers to their cries for relief from their sufferings in which they have no responsibility for what Adam and Eve did to themselves.
And so there is this book written that contains all the answers to their questions that billions are not even aware of ,and the billions that lived in the past during the Dark Ages had no access to while suffering untold anquish.
Now all of a sudden in our times,a few people have all the answers from God and his Book and his Holy Spirit,while billions are left to their circumstances as a product of their birth.
When I asked Ray Franz about the Bible being inspired by God,his response was ,it all comes down to belief and ones life experiences.I posted that response from him in one of my past thread,which you can find under my members posts.
So,your topic is not so PLAIN and SIMPLE.Your answers to my earlier questions were based on the Bible which I take issue with.Thank you for your efforts.
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 8-31-03 WT Study
by blondie in8/15/97 wt p 14
6/1/52 wt p. 340
2/1/96 wt p. 19
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Hi Blondie! I read your comments early this morning while having my breakfast.I know I tell you this each time that I read your comments,you open my eyes and cause me to really see these articles for what they are not saying.Your research and proof support you use is 'par excellence'.
So, do more,locally,internationally,support yourself while doing this and if you can't do more or travel where the need is great,( areas such as China,Korea,India,Pakistan etc.) give us your money to show that you support the world wide work.
And don't worry about how long Jehovah's patience is,one day,one month,33 days 70 c.e.124 yrs.etc.because "JEHOVAH'S DAY"is coming "SOON!"
And maybe Jehovah will show regret and not destroy billions of men women and children.Not to worry just keep on doing more and keep those $$$$$$$$$$ donations coming.
And if it takes a hot senorita to get your attention by all means go for it,build those kingdom halls while you keep an eye on that hot senorita! Show her how you care for her and view her just like the WT.says.
Same for the sisters,when you see that special so and so in the regional work sign up for that project show that you care for people ,( what is the real motive behind some of the ones who work on these so - called special project )I know some intentions are good,as was mine when I did more on these projects,yet,iI do know of some hanky panky opportunities that went on.
.Sorry for getting off topic Blondie, it must be the coffee,I hope you and your husband are doing ok with the health situation.
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?Re: my dad passed away
by azaria ini want to thank you for all the condolences and hugs.
it was a very difficult time.
not only because my dad passed away but because we had to deal with the jw org.
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It's so sad that in death there is much sorrow,for others to be heartless at such a time of grief ??Azaria
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MAY 1ST,2002 page 30,31.QFR'S.The Great Crowd is in the Sanctuary!
by Blueblades inthis article addresses the question:when john saw the 'great crowd'rendering sacred service in jehovah's temple,in which part of the temple were they doing this?rev.7:9--15.
anyone remember this article and the conclusions drawn from it.it is crucial to understand this doctrine,as it affects millions of jw's of the rank and file who are not aware of this doctrinal shift.
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Hi Winston! In a nutshell,the "great crowd is serving in Jehovah's Sanctuary,in Heaven,not on earth.
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The Other Sheep and The New Covenant ( New Light )
by Blueblades in.
the feb.1st.1998 issue of the wt.page 21.if anyone can scan it and show it here,please do.it is an update on "where is the great crowd serving"?.
thanks blueblades
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RavynI wish I could of been there for you. Tearsand Smiles.Tears for the past.Smiles for now and the future.I am all choked up for now after reading your very painful life.
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MAY 1ST,2002 page 30,31.QFR'S.The Great Crowd is in the Sanctuary!
by Blueblades inthis article addresses the question:when john saw the 'great crowd'rendering sacred service in jehovah's temple,in which part of the temple were they doing this?rev.7:9--15.
anyone remember this article and the conclusions drawn from it.it is crucial to understand this doctrine,as it affects millions of jw's of the rank and file who are not aware of this doctrinal shift.
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This article addresses the question:When John saw the 'great crowd'rendering sacred service in Jehovah's Temple,in which part of the temple were they doing this?REV.7:9--15.
Anyone remember this article and the conclusions drawn from it.It is crucial to understand this doctrine,as it affects millions of JW'S of the rank and file who are not aware of this doctrinal shift.
Blueblades