Good health to you Lady Lee,and Razor.
Blueblades
wooheee .
i'm cancer free.
i am so relieved.
Good health to you Lady Lee,and Razor.
Blueblades
did you ever find yourself having to defend your faith, while at the same time knowing, that your arguments were not so good to begin with?
for example, a person might say,"you people don't take blood and believe in doctors.
" even if we might have doubts about the blood issue, we would still defend our "faith" as best as we could.
You people don't.....The list of don'ts was very long.So,I would focus on the list of what we do,and that list at the time was also very long.For every negative I gave a positive.What a struggle it was at the time,I'm glad that its over for me,no more defending the Society.
Blueblades
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do you believe in free will?and if you do can you explain how it works?.
i can't see how free will could work.our motivation for doing things good or bad seems to come from a mixture of genes and enviroment, and through a long and complicted process cause us to perform all the actions we experience in life.when we feel a prompting to do something ,eat sleep have sex etc, this is accomplished by our body using chemicals in our bodies to give us a feeling that we then act upon.the degree to which these chemicals prompt us is related to genetic makeup and environment.. so some people have a bigger desire to eat than others because they lack the chemical stimulation that tells them to stop eating.or some will eat less (often when ill) because the chemicals that prompt you to eat are lacking.in normal life lots of over factors will be involved to like say an important phonecall at lunch time .if your brain feels the information from that call is important enough it will send out different chemicals that will cause you to attend to that situation first if serious enought.. knowledge can modify how our bodies react to certain situations, for example a child may see an icecream van and run into the road because his body has yet to learn of the danger of running into a road.when taught how foolish this by a nasty experience or hopefully , taught about the dangers by its parents, then the body will send out a meesage to look at the road first.. our bodies tell us which ideas are good and bad according to the information it holds and we react accordingly.we can fight desires but the will to do so is caused by other desires which are prompted by the body.. to have true free will neither our genes or enviroment could effect what we decide to do.. we have to be able to do things irespective of what promting we recive from our bodies or what information we have learnt and has thus modified our bodies response.. maybe there are but i can not think of any situation where or actions or reactions can not be explianed by genes mixed with environment (often in a very complicated way).nor can i understand how free will could work,unless free will is just a random action which could not be free will in the true sense.. if there is no free will then if there were a god and we are judged on what we do then this is entirely unfair as we really have little say in what we do in life.
PS and LT.It is not about cheaping or cowardness.Its about the "Carrot" the reward for choosing to use your free will in a way that lines up with God's and Jesus'.There is expectation in a self- sacrificing spirit.That is not wrong to want,it is a normal process of self- preservation when it comes to whether humans have free will,I believe free will is controlled by other forces in our lives,as was already discussed on this post.Hence ,because free will is controlled,it is not truley free will. My opinion of cause,one that is not easily resolvable.
Blueblades
It was that not everyone is going to heaven,only a little flock??
that is a common jw statement.... what could they be referring to??
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Brother ???once said that the great crowd is not so great after all,I guess we won't see it in this system of things.
Millions now living will never die! I guess we won't see it in this system of things!
Sheep and the Goats,I guess we won't see them in this system of things,separating them.
I guess by now we won't see a lot of things in this system of things.
Blueblades
every once in a while we get disturbed or annoyed over something that takes place here.
for a change, let's express reasons why we're happy to be here.......i'll give one reason amongst many.
there are so many enlightening posters here!
On my one year anniversary back in August 04,2003 I thanked Simon and many others and gave the reasons I have liked this forum,it has been very therapeutic for my family on our slow fade out of the WT.Society.We have been helped by many including you Minimus.And I hope that I too have been a help to still others as well.
Blueblades
it's a simple fact.
jw's cannot freely express themselves.
they can't freely tell another about a doubt or a question that they might have for fear they could be exposed to the elders.
Jesus would many times ask his disciples,"What do you think?"After allowing them to express themselves freely,they would have a lively discussion as a follow up.
The SOCIETY does not imitate Jesus in this manner because they fear independent thinking which in turn could lead to loss of members and money.
Blueblades
my answer: jesus christ.....yours??
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It would have to be the one who gets rid of human suffering,sickness,old age and death.If it turns out to be Jesus then He would be the greatest man who ever lived .If not,then,the greatest man has not lived yet.
Blueblades, my humble opinion.
one congregation in the 70's allowed only white shirts to be worn on the platform.
if an out of town speaker didn't know the "rule", it was ok. the brothers kept a variety of white shirts in different sizes in case that happened.
Here is one among the many:"Don't put your arm around your wife while sitting in the kingdom hall,it might excite the young ones,romantically.
Yeah right,excite them sexually,distract them from the meeting.
Blueblades
I don't talk about religion or politics.I do talk about religion and politics.No I don't,yes I do.Now I'm sounding like the WT.Society talking out of both sides of my mouth.
Seriously now,I get involved in political discussions whenever it is brought up.I remember the old promises,a chicken in every pot,two cars in every garage,and no one should ever be denied health care.we live in the great society!A new generation has the torch! On and on,etc.etc.I have not voted yet,we will see.
Blueblades