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  Were you 'alive in '75' and how was that year for you?

  by punkofnice in

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  2. experiences

  i was a junior borgite in 1975. i remeber looking at the calendar at work in october and thinking: 'armageddon isn't here yet.....and it doesn't feel like it will be here anytime soon either!'.

  i was surprised that jehovah hadn't obeyed the superior command to bring the big 'a' as instructed to him by fred franz.

  how dare god disobey the jw leader!!!!!.

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  Anticlimactic. I remember thinking that if they were wrong about 1975, maybe the generation teaching was wrong, too. I calculated in my head how long I would give the 'generation'. I thought that if it wasn't going to come, possibly around 2010, they would probably back track on the generation teaching. I also thought about my later years of life and how I would probably be in crisis if the end didn't come. I've never been so disappointed in being right in my life!
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  ugh...now I'm getting mad

  by Angus Beef in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  venting.... hubby visited with sil (with gotee intact), got the wt don't approve speech and the 'we've been missing you at the meetings".. he gave all the excuses he could for why we weren't there.

  i'm at the point of just telling them the truth as why... but we will be giving up our grandchildren.

  i just don't know if i can do it, give up the grandkids.

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  4thgen

  So sorry. Unfortunately, they have the power to make trouble for you with your grandkids. If you are seperated from contact with them, how can you teach them TTATT?

  I'm in a similar situation and it is so hard to hold it in sometimes. Take your power back. You be in control of what you want to tell them and how much...IF you feel they deserve to hear your private thoughts. Theocratic warfare in reverse. Think:"Pearls before swine...." Best to you....
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  Child intimidated into no sports activities- suggestions please

  by 4thgen in

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  2. family

  my ex is an active witness.

  i've been endeavoring to socialize my child ad best as possible.

  he loves sports in school, but has been intimidated by his father that after school activities are evil.

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  Thank you for all your wonderful comments. It is nice to get others thoughts with this. It got me to thinking since he's only with me every other weekend, it is not practical for the organized sports. I will consider to encourage him with after school activies as he is interested and continue to encourage independent thinking. Right now he has shifted into being interested in science. That will keep him occupied for a while. Also, thank you for your validating comments on being a single parent. It meant more than you know.

  jgnat, you have a PM

  KiddingMe I wish his father was reasonable, but he is not. He's still in and active, even with the child abuse and driniking, very little has been done to him. It's the good ole boye club...He believes that education and sports are evil....Must follow the slave....
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  Since Great Crowd has no mediator

  by sosoconfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am thinking that maybe i missed this discussion or something.

  now for years in the org i never ever paid attention to the article that says jesus is the mediator for the 144000 alone.

  yesterday talking to my 70+ year old dad he got violently angry with me and threw his cane at me because he said i was a liar.. .

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  Well, butter my butt and call me Biscuit! I thought about that before!
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  New light -----> beliefs clarified

  by fastJehu in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wt library cd contains a list of "beliefs clarified" from the year 1872 until today.. you can reach this list as follows:.

  - search for beliefs clarified.

  - double click on publications index.

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  ...What do you Do,when People Ask You for Spare Change?...

  by OUTLAW in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  .. .........................some people are truly in need..some are not... a man passing by on his 10 speed bike,asked me for $2.00 for a cup of coffee... .................................................."uhhh,no"... ............another asked me for spare change outside a super market... ......................................i said i didn`t have any... ...................so he say`s "how about a credit card?!"......lol!!...

  .. ....................what do you do,when people ask you for spare change?...

  ..... .. ..........................................whats the most outrageous thing... ......................................you`ve been asked forby a stranger?...

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  As an active JW I NEVER gave any money to anyone. Now that I am not active, my heart has softened (What doesn that tell you?) and very often I will give something. Although I never reach into my wallet for cash, as it's showing them where my money is kept. But if I can see who I am approaching and want to give, I will stick some money into my pocket and smoothly give it.

  As far as Lions Clubs, etc....Since I have recently been a charity volunteer, I now will always address person standing in the cold. If I cannot give, I will state that I've already given what I can to charity and appreciate their personal sacrifice.
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  Form Etiquette question

  by 4thgen in

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  2. tech-support

  recently there was a post from simon on inappropriate comments on the site.

  that lead me to wondering, what is the so-called etiquette for making friendships on the board?

  do you have to be invited to pm?

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  Recently there was a post from Simon on inappropriate comments on the site. That lead me to wondering, what is the so-called etiquette for making friendships on the board? Do you have to be invited to PM? Or is it ok to PM someone if you like their comments, etc. I just got a nice PM from a member and enjoyed the interaction. I’m relatively new to the forum.
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  Rotary, Lions Club & Kiwanis, etc

  by 4thgen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  like so many have said on this site, it is hard to begin again and make new friends.

  this has been a real challenge for me.

  i recently joined a local rotary club and have become acquainted with some very dedicated business people (some retired), wanting to be of service to others.

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  After lunch, the Rotary meetings do start with in ‘invocation’ and either the pledge of allegiance or a patriotic song. The invocation is similar to those I hear at sporting or other professional networking events. Sometimes it mentions God, other times not….this past week it was an ‘Ode to the Super Bowl‘. It was funny, actually. I don’t say the pledge or bow my head at the prayer. After they get past all that stuff, the meeting begins. Yes, to each his own. I haven't felt pressured....I suppose each club has it's own personality. It is a rough thing trying to build a life without having a clue how to be in the world. For me, (so far) it’s a good fit. I‘m having fun while being of help to others. It’s nice not to have to count hours ;)
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  Electronic Radio Biola sold in Awake! magazine for $465 each

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  well, it was actually $35 usd each, but i adjusted for today's purchasing power of us currency.

  see these interesting articles on the most bizarre medical equipment sales scam of all time.... http://www.seanet.com/~raines/biola.html.

  http://www.seanet.com/~raines/abrams.html.

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  Blonde brought this to my attention a couple of week ago. Who knew? Such a blantant scam.

  The only positive thing I saw out of it was the published comment, when the WT wanted to distance themselves from the scam: "We....try to be honest, fearless, sincere and helpful. If we make mistakes forgive us. We repent "seventy times seven"." That was very impressive that they actually admited a mistake.

  That would NEVER happen now....
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  Will Child Molestation Lawsuits Against The Watchtower Corporation Make It Claim Bankruptcy?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  we all know sales are dropping in money recieved from printing literature and that it must have been a money drain for quite some time now at least from the time they went to a completely free literature offer to avoid paying ceaser's things to ceaser, so that now the next big finacial move is thru real estate flipping and capitalizing of the jw work force thru slave labor working conditions.. could these lawsuits bring them to the breaking point finacially i know there are a lot of nay sayers among us, but what say you and what is your gut feeling on this one?.

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  4thgen

  They prepared well a few years ago by liquidating the protecting their assets via legal vieils. Unfortunately, they will remain solvent. Remember they do not have to pay lawyers and fees, their labor is free like all the other volunteers. Yes, 'Religon is a snare and a racket".