anyone ever wonder whether IT could be the TRUTH?

by Cordelia 67 Replies latest jw friends

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  sass_my_frass

  Oh hon I was wondering how you're doing. Yeah I know I'm not ready to give my family up forever either, but then I went and married my boy so potentially I could get them back. It's a crazy dream but I've got to at least try.

  You don't want to go giving him an ultimatum though. But then your situation is so much more complex; the divorce, and your bub. What a hellish time for you, I'm so sorry!

  If you trust him, and know for sure that he's the one worth going through this for, then it will be okay. If he is the rose that smells sweet.... (thanks jgnat) then trust your feelings for him. If the truth has always smelt like a cabbage, it might actually be a cabbage.
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  onacruse

  when you were all faced with losing so much did you ever wonder if there was a chance it was the 'truth'

  So many times that I've long lost count.

  how do you know if you are doing the right thing or not?

  The "right" thing is doing, finally, after all the quetions have been asked, and the answers have been offered, that you you do what is right in your own heart!

  A simplistic answer from me, to be sure; but possibly worth considering.

  Craig
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  FlyingHighNow

  Cord, I can't lie to you, honey. It is NOT the truth.
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  vitty

  I havent been to meeting for 18 months have done a bit of research AND have read a lot of posts on this board...............and yes sometimes, usually in the middle of the night or when I hear of another disaster, I think..........Is it the truth.

  But you have to have some points in your mind: I instantly think about the history of the JWs and how Rutherford, more or less changed everything Russel believed, then I run down a few other things.

  It doesnt take long before you know again it cant possible be the truth !!!!!!

  Write down some things that convinced YOU it wasnt the truth and put them somewhere, on the computer, and look at them often.
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  LittleToe

  Once I realised it wasn't "the truth" there was no need to second guess. It simply can't be "the truth". Besides, it flies in the face of Jesus words that HE is "the truth", and hence raises a question against their claim to be a Christian organisation.

  I will say this for it - it raises people to lead a generally moral life.

  This is something that could be attained by most other systems of raising, however, and isn't the property of any one religion or culture. It can also be attained without the fear of losing family if you don't subscribe to the whole package. It can also be attained without many of the accoutrements of dogma, including the attitude of "we're the only right people in a world choc-a-block full of bad bad people"...

  Look at the way it's screwing with your head, and ask yourself "could I put my child through that?". At age 5? At age 15? At age 25?

  (((hugs)))
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  Ingenuous

  When I started my journey out of the Org, I often prayed that I was wrong and just needed the right form of correction/discipline to see where I'd gone astray. I wanted to be wrong so badly - I would take the pain of being proven intellectually incompetent over losing my parents. But I don't feel that way anymore.

  You might want to take a look at acuragirl's post, Still On the Fence.
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  Honesty

  anyone ever wonder whether IT could be the TRUTH?

  I had been fading for almost two years and still believed it was the truth... until a Christian who befriended me started asking me many questions about the organisation that had only one answer to each question. And those answers prove the WatchTower Bible and Tract Society has never been approved by God; has never been remotelty connected to Jesus in any manner; has lied throughout its history in order to maintain control over people. I knew after a lot of soul searching as to wheteher I would serve Jesus or serve the WTBTS that the only answer that I could live with was going to cost me my family and almost all of my friends. It did but I have found the best friend in the universe because I left the cult and began trusting in Him only. The Governing Body has stolen His authority, position and medaitorship from all who allow them to. You should do what is right for you and God and all the rest will be taken care of.
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  Mary

  A friend of mine asked me this the other day. She said "..what if this is The Truth??"

  From everything I've studied, there's no way this is "the Truth" and it's not difficult to prove. It's very hard on alot of us, because it was drilled into our heads from infancy that this was "the Truth". It's not easy "readjusting your thinking" when you've been programmed that way for so many years. There are still some aspects of the religion that I believe, but there's simply too many doctrines that they teach that are false, and this you can't ignore. When you add in all the false date setting, the flip flopping back and forth between "new light" and "old light" that clearly shows they haven't a clue what they're talking about, and then count how many lives they've destroyed over the years, well, the facts speak for themselves.

  Look at what happened to the brothers and sisters in Malawi in the 1960s and 70s. Because one person on the GB changed his vote not to let them carry a Party Card, thousands were beaten, raped, tortured and murdered. This was not Jehovah's doing, it was the Governing Body's doing. So unfortunately, all the evidence shows that this is a very high control group, not God's channel of truth.
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  Undecided

  Have you read Crisis of Conscience? It will free your mind to realize that no holy spirit exist in Brooklyn to lead the 12 or so old men who make all the decisions for God. Either God's spirit doesn't work or they don't have it. There have been too many wrong beliefs taught be these men that were later changed for me to put my only life in their hands.

  Ken P.
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  AlmostAtheist

  there IS a chance it's the truth.

  
  

  
  Tetra, you know I love ya'. But I can't buy this one.

  There is NO CHANCE that JW's have "the truth". None. Why? They set themselves up for a fall by calling it "The Truth". It is complete and wholly correct. The "light gets brighter" doctrine is a way to allow them to be utterly wrong, but still claim to be "currently correct". It is their contention that at any point in time, they alone carry the one correct litany of dogma.

  But the dogma is demonstrably wrong. Never mind pedophilia. Ignore lies from the org, the UN scandal, the Mexico/Malawi policy of murder. Forget the children and adults sacrificed on their blood doctrine altar. Look only at the "current body of truth" and you can shoot holes big enough to drive a Salvation Army truck through.

  Blood Transfusion = eating blood? Demonstrably wrong. Not a matter of opinion -- just dead wrong.

  Birthday celebrations forbidden by god? Nope, not a stitch of relevant evidence. Not maybe -- just "No"

  Pagan origins = forbidden? This "bible principle" doesn't exist in scripture, and if it did, the Watchtower makes no attempt to apply it evenly. Some things are forbidden, some things aren't. Wholly arbitrary, no input from god at all.

  (References available upon request on the above points)

  Do they have some stuff right? Sure. A coin flip is right half the time. But they claim to be "always right". They ain't.

  Cordy, do what you need to do for your happiness. Deciding what will result in the most happiness/least stress in your life is not an easy thing, agreed. But please, please, PLEASE make your decisions based on YOUR happiness. Do not base it on any supposed possibility that the JW's have "The Truth".

  Your fellow human,

  Dave