by exodus 48 Replies latest jw friends
As I'm sure you know, you know.
Stepping down as an Elder without a "good" reason is like tattooing "apostate" on your forehead.
Doesn't matter if you are or not though.
Congradulations Exodus!!
Slipnslidemaster: "Whether you think that you can, or that you can't, you are usually right."
- Henry Ford
((((Exodus))))
I remember you from the old H2O. I am sorry that you will be another pawn in this sick little charade of the WTS. I hope it makes you feel better to know that the end is near for those "untrained" ignorant men at the top. All that awaits them is judgment. I would hate to be in their shoes.
So you said Dateline is interested in a segment on shunning? Wonderful -- let the whole world see the Watchtower Society for what it really is. Too many people think, "Oh JW's are such good people - a little strange but good." Yeah right! I do know many good JW's, albeit deceivingly being used by a corrupt corporation disguized as a religion.
Keep posting. We will be here to support you!
Truthexodus - one more point. I think you should make a copy of JR Brown's PR statement and highlight the "untrained clergy" part and handwrite in your own writing somewhere on the page something to the effect of: "I apologize but, due to this copy of the Watchtower's official press release, I will not be able to attend a meeting with 'untrained clergy'. Should you ever decide to train your clergy, please inform me and I will consider attending a meeting at that time." Then cc your attorney in plain view so they can all see. Send a copy of this to all the elders in your area. Let them see that they are being called "untrained clergy" by their own idol.
You Know,
you said:
and yet for years you carried on in secret as an apostate critic of the Watchtower.
I noticed that exodus never carried on in secret as an apostate critic of God, but rather, of the "watchtower" as you said. Do you really think it's possible to serve God and NOT be an apostate critic of the "watchtower"? If so, please start a new thread with your view of how one can serve both God and the "watchtower". I don't want to take away from exodus's topic here, but I'm interested in hearing how it is possible to serve 2 masters and not have a mental breakdown such as exodus had. I understand and I'm sure you do too, as to why when someone has doubts about the "watchtower", they have to have the doubts in secret. exodus already showed us all the hate that is shown to those who have doubts about the "watchtower" if it is found out. Fortunaletly, the "watchtower" isn't God.
peace,
somebody
You Know,
You're a real piece of work.
...and yet when Jehovah finally calls you to account...
You are making the same mistake that the witnesses make in thinking that the elders are Jehovah's mediators and spokesmen. They are just men. They are imperfect, untrained volunteers.
They have no more of a select, exclusive relationship with Jehovah than you or I or anyone else.
riz
There was a fox who applied for the job of guarding the chicken coup.
The farmer was suspicious. "Why should I hire you? After all, you're a fox!"
"I'm a changed man," the fox replied, "I'll do you a good job and keep a close eye on your chickens."
The farmer hired the fox to guard the chicken house and retired for the night. Next morning, the farmer when out to check the chickens and found them all dead and gone and the fox picking his teeth.
"You said I could trust you, that you were changed, and that you would do a good job for me. Now you've ruined me. How could you do this to me?"
"I didn't do anything to you," said the fox, "you did it to yourself. After all, you knew what I was when you hired me."
And so it goes. When the WTBTS acts like a cult, why should any one be surprised? It looks like a cult, it walks like a cult, it talks like a cult, by every definition it's a cult.
So why is anyone surprised when it treats people like it's a cult?
Francois
NOTE TO GOVERNING BODY: You've been challenged to a debate, boys. Dont you have ANY balls?
Hey You(don't)know(jack): Can you please answer me this sincere question: What took "Jehovah" so long? If Exodus was really abusing his sheep, isn't Jehovah responsible for not getting rid of the problem sooner? And why would Jehovah need eight people's hearsay to do so? And how do you know that there aren't more elders that Jehovah is allowing to abuse his little sheep? Maybe one or two in each hall even. Really, how do you know Jehovah even cares since he obviously allows this? And how clean is your congregation *really*?
Hi Ex, but truth is still in you,
I was at h2o when you started posting. I could see that you were troubled and had a heavy burdon that you were carrying. I know that the situation is unpleasant for the moment, but this too shall pass. I do appreciate all the work and help that you have been to otheres and, of course to our Bill. And thank you for comming foward and speaking your mind.
What ever happens with the Kangaroo Judicial Comittee, You can have the peace knowing that did nothing wrong and questions are never wrong. Isn't that what the WTBTS asks us all to do when we are in another religion? Why would it be wrong for them?
May you find peace and the love from your supportive wife.
When the WTBTS acts like a cult, why should any one be surprised? It looks like a cult, it walks like a cult, it talks like a cult, by every definition it's a cult.YES, YES, YES, YES
Cheers,
Ozzie
"Evil is the absence of empathy"
Movie (2000), Nuremberg
Hey Exodus,
Sorry to here you are exiting in this way. I think you have received good advise from JT and others here if it is not too late to implement. You seemed to have been around this board longer than me, so there is nothing I can say enlightening. But like many here I know what it feels like to invest 36 years of one’s life to an institution that discards you as soon as you express a realistic but negative attitude. As everyone has told you, it is the right move. You’re better off. I resigned as an elder only 4 months ago but should have done it 25 years ago when in my heart I knew the truth. I hope some legal threat would make them back off from your case as far as judicial action. If you try it and it works let me know. I don’t know how much longer I can walk this tight rope of pretence. Take care and write if you like.
Jst2laws
