Ghosts, Demons, or Imagination?

by ButtLight 180 Replies latest jw friends

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  SWALKER

  I think that there are just too many sightings by people to ignore that there may possibly be another dimension that we humans can't get scientific evidence on! I grew up in an area that was near a famous battleground during the Civil War...I knew many credible people that had seen some out of the ordinary things! Like an old soldier on a horse, etc. that type of thing. I believe that there are a lot more stories out there, but because of how you get treated if you say anything, like in this thread, people just keep it to themselves.

  That being said..I've had a few sightings myself and I know what I saw!!! I hadn't been drinking, doing drugs, etc., etc. As a matter of fact, a few months ago, I saw a man on my brother's sofa that looked just like my brother. He disappeared shortly before my brother walked out of his bedroom! My brother had just woke up and had slept in his bed the entire night.

  EXPLAIN THAT!!!

  (If I had known that it wasn't my brother, I would have tried to scratch him and get some DNA under my nails for scientific evidence!)

  Like I've said before, when you have seen "something" it makes you a believer, but if you haven't, then you don't. It's kind of like getting the JW's to realize the "truth" about the "truth"...until they're ready, there's not much you can do.

  Swalker
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  tetrapod.sapien

  it's all cool peoples. i am trying like a bitch whore to have a supernatural experience. trying all sorts of stuff. but whatever it is in the end, i just want all you folks to know that i luv ya! really, i do.

  cheers

  josh
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  ButtLight

  Like an old soldier on a horse, etc. that type of thing.

  Ok, another ass chewing here!

  I went with a friend to her cabin one weekend. She told me ahead of time that it was an indian burial ground! She told me that everyone that goes there sees the dead indians! I laughed and said lets go.

  So, I get there, and everything in the cabin is indian stuff. (nic nacs)

  So, im sitting by the fire we lit, and glance over and see a man sitting on the wood pile! (at this point i think i had enough to drink!)

  I say to my friend "do you see that?" and she says, "the guy on the wood pile?"

  That freaked me out, cause if it were me drunk, how could she see it too?

  Anyway, all the pics i took with my digital cam came out with like a smokey look to them. Not a one came out clear! Just weird!
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  SWALKER

  When several people see the same thing, it's hard to say they all have the same "mental problems!" LOL! Also, when DIFFERENT people go to a certain place and have the SAME experience, without any foreknowledge of anything out of the ordinary...that's hard to explain scientifically!

  Swalker
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  ButtLight

  i am trying like a bitch whore to have a supernatural experience.

  Well there hun, I can send them your way, cause I dont want them!

  My son came to me tonight and said, if I see him tonight, im going to get out of bed, and run right through him!!! More nerve than I have! I wolk up my bf last night, just to go to the bathroom with me, cause i had to go right where the "whaterver" was standing! Yes, im a chicken shit, but hey, i was raised that way!
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  ButtLight

  I have to walk upstairs in the dark now! Wish me luck!
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  osmosis

  you seem to have missed my point, and that was "experiencing" it doesn't make it so, regardless of whether you're sober or not, regardless of whether or not you're mentally ill. And as for these so-called "group paranormal experiences" there are many plausible (and parsimonious) explanations available, one need only take one's pick.

  just because you or anyone else claims to have seen or heard something paranormal is essentially dismissable simply because 1) there is no evidence, just your claim, 2) the claim is extraordinary, and extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence to even be worth considering at face value.

  I believe people truly believe the things they think they see and hear. It's probably especially convincing when you don't remember popping a tab a couple of hours earlier, but that doesn't make it "true". That doesn't bring it into the realm of things we can assume really happened, and talk about meaningfully.

  ButtLight: your blatant condescension is duly noted. ad hominem attacks like that are usually a sign of someone arguing from a very weak position.

  Moving right along, if you see lights on things and there is no possible source of light to cause it, you might consider describing this to a doctor and not us. Especially if your son is also experiencing what could very well be schizophrenic hallucinations. I mean you no insult by this, I sincerely do think you should look into this possibility.
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  Jeffro

  People don't need to do drugs to imagine even very specific or elaborate things. There are many other things that can be involved, for example neurological disorders, synaesthesia, medications, dehydration, sleep deprivation, isolation, low blood pressure, viruses and boredom can all contribute to such 'experiences'.

  Usually these 'phantom' auditory or visual phenomona last only a couple of seconds - generally because the brain usually works out the stimuli that had been initially misinterpreted. A related and less spooky example of the phenomenon is misreading a word in a paragraph and being sure you read it correctly, but on the second read through, it said something different.
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  force

  Hi , i havent read through all da posts but wanted to tell you what happened to ma bro.

  up until he was about 12, if he fell asleep on da sofa, he would wake up and be talking and then a few mins later he would start screaming or pointing at imaginery things. it was really scary bec he looked awake and was talking to us all.

  anyway mum took him to see someone and they said he was still asleep even though he looked awake, like part of his brain was still asleep, like in sleepwalking.

  just thought i would mention it incase it was something similar with your boy.
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  ButtLight

  ButtLight : your blatant condescension is duly noted. ad hominem attacks like that are usually a sign of someone arguing from a very weak position.

  I only fight back, when being attacked! Has nothing to do with a weak position!

  Moving right along, if you see lights on things and there is no possible source of light to cause it, you might consider describing this to a doctor and not us

  I could have sworn that this is a discussion forum!