Rex
Rex I was hoping you would come to my rescue and help reason with these fellow heathens! Shame on them for not reconising the BANANA and all it's obviously God given benfits to human kind! How could anyone doubt after watching that video?
Atheists Worst Nightmare!
by SickofLies 75 Replies latest watchtower bible
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SickofLies
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lilybird
well..maybe we should start some kind of cult banana religion.." the power of the banana"...lol
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EAGLE-1
Now Im back with the ape theory.
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gold_morning
For what's worth. The funny thing is, Darwin did not set out to attack Christianity. He started out believing in God. He trained to be a minister for the Church of England. His favorite professors at school were ministers. So how did he come up with a theory that took God out of the picture altogether?
Darwin loved nature. He liked to hunt, collect bugs, and go on long walks in the country. He read a lot of books on science. He joined science clubs, and hung around professors and friends who were scientists.
But after a while, Darwin could not square his knowledge of nature with the Church of England’s views on creation. It started with a misunderstanding of God’s Word. Genesis says that creatures multiplied "according to their kind" (1:21). This means that a member of, say, the elephant kind would never become something other than an elephant. But teachers in the Church confused biblical "kinds" with scientific "species." If kinds don’t change, they thought, then species don’t change either.
This put them in a bind. Let’s go back to the elephant. One species of elephant with small ears lives in Asia, while another species with big ears lives in Africa. They are very similar. Surely they must be related? Not according to the Church of England.
Well then, how did we get two species of elephants? The Church’s solution was to say that there were two separate creations: God put the big-eared elephants in Africa, and the little-eared elephants in India.
Darwin just could not believe this. He was impressed by the tremendous variety of life. But why were creatures so alike? Why would a Creator make so many different species that seemed to be related? Darwin agreed that each creature was well-suited for the place in which it lived. But it look to him like nature, not God, could explain these little adjustments. And if nature was the best answer for small differences, he thought, then nature was the best answer for everything that ever lived.
This is where Darwin went too far. Perhaps his theory could explain a small amount of change. Perhaps the big-eared elephant and the small-eared elephant were related after all. Nature could do some of it, but no one has proved that nature could do all of it.
Atheists might try to find comfort in Darwin. But everyone should know that Darwin did not succeed. He did not rid our world of a wonderful, loving Creator God.
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SickofLies
This is where Darwin went too far. Perhaps his theory could explain a small amount of change. Perhaps the big-eared elephant and the small-eared elephant were related after all. Nature could do;some of it, but no one has proved that nature could do;all of it.
I think you made an excellent post and I agree with everything you said up until here. Why do you say Darwin went to far? How do you explain that fossils show clear evidence of species not only changing, but changing as they move across contients. The lama changing into the camel is a great example of this. I suggest you read more of talkorgins I feel you will find there are many good answers to these points.
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Confession
The pure rational thought the man utilizes in the video leaves me in astonished paralysis. As Sting once wrote, "Your logic ties me up and rapes me."
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heathen
I think the atheists' worst nightmare is that one day the science of genetics will prove that there are blocking sequences in the DNA that prohibit one species from becoming another. If that does happen it will be the death of evolution.
I'm pretty sure the WTBTS already came to that conclusion , so we know it must be true because they said it .
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KW13
LOL i believe in God yet somehow...it just doesn't help my arguement ya know?
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gold_morning
Just a thought.
We were created by God.....but more so... he allowed us to participate by giving us the abillity to pro-create.
I remember the pictures in school of evolution. You know the ones.... the monkey/ape changing and becoming more upright. But then there was this missing link between the change of ape to man. Did you ever wonder why there was this missing link? Perhaps it is missing as it is not there.
Just a thought
Gold_morning
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gold_morning
If you have time.... I was impressed reading this..
gold_morning
10 Best Evidences for Creation by Dave & Mary Jo Nutting and Dan Korow
1. The Fossil Record.
The fossil record provides evidence for a complex, instantaneous creation. Why? A: The lower geologic layers reveal a sudden proliferation of complex life forms with every phyla represented. This Cambrian Explosion or “Big Bang” of life is preceded by no simpler forms. B: Today’s living forms show no change from their supposed ancient ancestors. C: There are large and systematic gaps between the different kinds of fossils rather than gradual, evolutionary changes.
2. Irreducible Complexity
Prepackaged, highly engineered systems exist in our bodies that are so complex they defy evolutionary explanations. These systems involve integrated multiple parts and reactions that work together only as a whole. If you eliminate any one piece, none of the system works at all. Evolution supposedly operates by natural selection perfecting less developed systems. However, natural selection requires something working and in place to perfect! Examples in the human body are the immune system, blood clotting, and any one of hundreds of biochemical pathways.
3. Gaps in the Living World
If isolated members of a species change by evolutionary processes, the main population group can still continue. We should be able to read the history of the evolutionary progression right across the very top of the evolutionary branching tree. We can’t! Just as the fossil record contains large systematic gaps, the living world does too. We see evidence for creation of distinct kinds — not one kind changing into another.
4. Laws of Probability
The odds are enormously great against the successful occurrence of each of the myriads of needed evolutionary changes! Even the probability of 1 small protein occurring by accident is 1 chance out of 10260. Since we have thousands of even larger proteins, it is inconceivable they all happened by chance. Coupling that with intricate structures like eyes, wings, hearts, lungs, etc., the laws of probability scream out, “Creation!”
5. Law of Cause and Effect:
The Law of Cause and Effect is one of the best documented principles of science and of everyday experience. Every event must have a sufficient cause. Since the origin of the universe and the origin of life are events, they too must have a cause. The physical universe consisting of time, space, energy, and matter must all have a cause outside themselves. Likewise, life must have a living Cause. Following this reasoning to its logical conclusion, leads to an infinite, eternal, powerful, intelligent, living First Cause--our awesome Creator!
6. Chicken or Egg Principle
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? This question has plagued philosophers for a long time. The question is even deeper, however. Chickens have many proteins. Each protein is coded for by the DNA/RNA system. However, many specific proteins are needed in order to manufacture DNA/RNA. So which came first: proteins or DNA/RNA? The logical explanation is that they were both created.
7. Intelligent Design
Intelligent Design demands an Intelligent Designer. The airplane, computer, and digital camera originated not by random, undirected, chance processes, but by engineering genius. Such sophisticated acheivements however, pale in comparison to the extremely complex, systematically ordered, precision regulated systems of living tissue. The superior flight of the dragonfly, the mind boggling information mega-processor of the human brain, and the eye as a self-focusing, fully-automatic, high resolution, 3-D motion picture camera are the natural prototypes for our acclaimed tech marvels. It is scientifically inconceivable, unreasonable and illogical to credit blind, brainless chance as their maker. God alone is wise without limits, and deserves the Glory.
8. The Anthropic Principle
The Anthropic Principle observes that the universe, including our beautiful, blue planet appears to have been specifically designed for man to inhabit (just as Isaiah 45:18 says). Without the delicate balance of multitudes of physical properties, life would be impossible. Examples include the strength of the four basic forces in the universe (gravitational, electromagnetic, strong and weak nuclear forces), the size and shape of the earth, the distance from earth to sun, the tilt of the earth’s axis, the concentration of atmospheric gases, and the presence of abundant liquid water. It couldn’t just happen.
9. Information Theory
Information has intelligence as its source, not haphazard chaotic chance. A computer programmer instills purpose, plan, and design by implementing and organizing recognizable bits of data into an understandable language framework. In biological systems, information is encoded as DNA, the programmed software of cells. As evolutionist Dr . Micheal Denton says in his book Evolution: A Theory in Crisis, “The capacity of DNA to store information vastly exceeds that of any other known system; it is so efficient that all the information needed to specify an organism as complex as man weighs less than a few thousand millionths of a gram.” Since raw organic molecules have no intrinsic cognitive capacity, who injected the information into the DNA? God alone is able.
10. Extreme Complexity
Complexity beyond comprehension characterizes all life forms, including the so-called “simple cell.” As Dr. Micheal Denton states referring to the cell, “...we would find ourselves in a world of supreme technology and bewildering complexity...beyond our own creative capacities.” Everything, from atomic structures to cells, organs, organ systems, and living creatures speaks of incredible order, balance, and unity as a whole.
and God Said It!
It is really hard to argue with the only One who claims to have been there when the universe and life began. He said He created everything to reproduce “after its own kind” — not one kind changing into another.