chiddy- you get on my nerves all the time! You have a one track seedy mind, you pretend that you haven`t posted porn photo`s on the jw site, make up some lies about you were hijacked, and then get kicked off here after a few days, and then come back on with another alias, so jog on!
Womens Right`s are they Wrong?
by dido 87 Replies latest jw friends
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My MILs worst nightmare, a nonJW
dido,
I was raised by a single Mom who survived adult polio, went back into the workforce at 41 as a substitute teacher and raised four kids with NO child support. Strong women rock! God bless them! .
My current family roles are pretty "traditional" , in the sense that I am the breadwinner and my wife is a homemaker....but in our household that is the best current use of our talents. When the kids were young my wife was the BEST, she would make her own baby food from fresh ingrediants and lavish them with nurturing. I was worthless in comparison at that time. When the boys were older, she threw up her hands, and I became the primary nurturer. When her father died a slow death from cancer and she spent all her time caring for him and her mother...I ended up doing all the cooking and the other 475 neccessary chores to keep a home functioning smoothly. Later on, she took over most of those things. I think everyone has their strengths and weaknesses and its wise to acknowledge them and work together accordingly.
There is nothing weak about women, there is something weak in some men that makes them intimidated by a womens strength. Which reminds me... better go to work.
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chiddy
Ive never posted porn and if i did I would admit it
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dido
Fe203girl- i have not said that women aren`t equal, we are talking `roles` not equality.
chiddy-you are a liar, and a few on London site know what you have done, so don`t play the innocent.
mmwn- what i don`t understand is where are the father`s? I admire the fact that your mother was able to bring you up as it must have been a hard job, but why keep having kids if there is no father to support them? I am not against men helping out in the home, if they want to cook etc,. great, but i think if a man goes to work, there should be a hot meal on the table for them when they get home.
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parakeet
dido: "i still devoted the time to my family, and there is nothing better in life than doing that in my IMO."
That's what women's rights are about -- choice. Before the women's rights movement, devoting time to your family was pretty much the ONLY choice. -
chiddy
Ok my avatar was interfered with on that site , no big deal is it? Any way nothing happening on that site,
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Mary
Just because you are a stay at home mum doesn`t mean that you don`t use your brain. You are free to do what ever you please, any hobbies, arts etc., once you get the jobs done.
Well guess what dido? Most women don't have the luxury to "do whatever you please" and don't have time for hobbies, art etc. They've made the decision to go out into the working world to earn their keep and they don't have time for this. That's the No. 1 thing that always irked me whenever I see all the sisters out in Service on Wednesdays. It's just one big social outlet and most of them have never held a real job in their lives. They are totally reliant on their husbands to provide a roof over their heads and they wouldn't have a clue what to do in life without a husband. I found it difficult to even carry on an intelligent conversation with them as they had no concept of the world beyond their husband and children.
I would hate to be stuck in a stuffy office all day, and same thing day in day out. at least when you are at home, you can chose whether you want to go out on a nice day etc.
Yes but as I already said, if you didn't have a man to pay your way, you wouldn't have this option. And just because YOU had no desire to work outside the home, doesn't mean that other women don't.
I got divorced after 25 years of marriage, (due to the wts) and have managed to `survive`, i have my own business, and home, despite being a stay at home mum.
So basically, you're bashing the very system that you're taking advantage of now. Thanks to "womens rights", women do own their own businesses now and can support themselves, yet you whine that women shouldn't have any ambition beyond being a homemaker. So which is it?
The whole structure of society has broken down because of the breakdown in role`s.
Sounds like your marriage ended because of the religion, not because of the "breakdown in roles".
You always point out the negative examples, there are lots of positive ones you know.
Uh, I'd say you've basically done the same thing. You think women are "the weaker vessel" and shouldn't work outside the home. In other words, they should be totally reliant on a man for all their economic needs. I say: bullshit. The only sure things in life are death and taxes. You've got no idea if your marriage is going to work and you need a plan in place in case it doesn't. If a woman wants to be a stay at home mom, that's up to her. But your June Cleaver view of womankind is extremely antiquated and completely unrealistic.
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My MILs worst nightmare, a nonJW
dido,
My mother left my father with kids age 6 (me), 10, 12, and 16 back in 1963 when divorsing was still a scandal. My father was abusive. She did the right thing.
Strong, balanced men simply do not exist in droves as Mary and others have pointed out on this forum.
So, you do the best you can based on each others strengths and weaknesses. My point was that in my experience the roles may and do change throughout the marriage. Some of the women on this board may decide in ten years to reverse roles with their husbands. I was not good with the boys when they were toddlers, however their mother was excellent. Today I go surfing with my oldest son, which my wife has no interest in. There is no gold standard to me other than utilizing each mates strengths to achieve a loving and nurturing environment in which to raise your children. In some cases that means the women are breadwinners and in some homes its the reverse.
Having said that, it is my personal preference (along with my wife) within my marriage to be the breadwinner. That just makes it right for my family, not others. Besides most men are completely incapable of doing the incredible amount of work most women do to keep a household functioning, let alone working outside the home.
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dido
Mary- you sound a very angry person, have i touched a raw nerve here or something? Is it because you haven`t had the opportunity to be a stay at home mum? Is there a bit of jealousy there, you mentioned sisters out on service, as a social outlet. Maybe they weren`t intersted in talking about working in stuffy environments? I was one of them, that was after i finished cooking /cleaning/ washing/ bringing up five kids, i wanted some light relief, so what? The reason i can run my own business is because i have got a `brain` despite being a stay at home mum, and the reason my marriage broke down is because of the religion, not because of the roles, much to my regret. The fact that my marriage was so good is that my husband didn`t want me to work, he cared about his kids, and wanted them looked after properly, (as did i,) not pushed from pillar to post by chilminders. I must make it clear here, i am not saying women aren`t equal, i`m saying they have lost their `role` in life.
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dido
chiddy- you have a one track mind, you`ve even tried it with my name by adding an `l` a couple of times, `accidently` my a...e. You are billybulls..t!