Still Groggy: Double Agent's Blog #001 - "Pressure Building" (page 2)

Merry Magdalene

Sorry for your troubles!!! I hope things work out better than it feels like they will at this point. There's always hope, and you never know what one little thing (or million little things gradually accumulated) will do it for her. Best wishes ~ Merry

darth frosty

I am going thru a similar 'trial' with my wife's mother. Sadly I have come to the conclusion you cant win. You hope that you can reason calmly on something so innocent as a judgement matter, but alas you cant. The dubs are drawing battle lines and you must take a stand. They will not let you simply walk away. You stop going to the hall your apostate. You dare to think on your own your showing a worldly spirit.

The best you can do is fortify your resolve and wait for your moment to strike. The showdown is coming.

BrendaCloutier

Does anyone else think there's any significance to her bringing up "Im not brainwashed" Could that mean that she considers that she COULD BE. Because I NEVER used those words.
Maybe. I used to use expressions like that when I first got involved with the jws, and my friends used to accuse me of it. I later used to think it when I was having doubts, to convince myself I was a jw by choice, not because I was under mind control.
I would listen very carefully to what she has to say during the coming weeks and months, it could just be she isn't quite as certain of what she believes as she is making herself out to be. Perhaps there is more hope than you have been led to believe.

Ok, I think this just hit me over the head....

JW telling themselves they are Dub by choice and not brainwashed.

Alcoholic telling themselves they can quit any time they want to, they just don't want to because they like it too much.

In both cases, the person is sick. We could argue that JWism is a disease, but certainly a mental illness of sort, but alcoholism is certainly a disease.

I didn't mean to derail your thread, (((( StillGroggy )))).

inlove

Dear Groggy:

I have just started studying JW with DF husband. I have learned more than he knows, from this site and others, I want to help bring him to the true light. Do you think it is a good idea to attend meetings with him? And what are duh(s)?

SirNose586

It looks like we're fighting the same battle, you and I, to keep our metaphorical masks from dropping all the way. I haven't had a fight like the one you had, but I did get kinda close to it with my mom (I questioned the veracity of a WT example).

Stay frosty. There's a beacon at the end of the tunnel for both of us...

jgnat

Yesterday was a setback, not a loss. All JW's go through cycles of zealousness. I agree, it is telling that she told YOU that she's not "brainwashed". I'd say her natural personality was peeking through there, giving you a hint that she wants OUT of her self-made mental prison. I'd say keep on keeping on.

You've got a really good plan.

jgnat

Welcome, inlove.

I have just started studying JW with DF husband. I have learned more than he knows, from this site and others, I want to help bring him to the true light.

Boy oh boy, you are in for more than you could ever know. If your husband is studying again, I suspect he's on the fast track to get reinstated. If you panic or criticize his religion at all, however, he may turn on you in a dime. Weaning a person from the cult personality takes delicacy. I strongly recommend you read Steve Hassan's books FIRST before you confront him with anything you've learned. www.freedomofmind.com

Do you think it is a good idea to attend meetings with him?

No harm done. Be prepared for the "love bombing". I suggest you comment in the meetings.

And what are duh(s)?

Do you meen duh, or dub? "Dub" is short for the sound of "W" or "Duble-you". As in a short form of "JW" or "Jay-Dub".

Duh, on the other hand, is California chick shorthand for like, you know, duh, get a clue?

truthsetsonefree

Keep up the fight. After almost four years, my wife has finally seen what I've been saying. tsof

TheListener

Hang in there Groggy. You never know what gets through and what doesn't. Admittedly it always seems that nothing gets through, but then all of a sudden something happens and you can't believe that they were listening after all.

You are not alone in trying to keep you family and save them from the witnesses at the same time.

Your wife sounds very hardcore and more than a little judgmental - I mean this to be helpful not offensive. If that's true could you slowly lean your family study towards issues that will highlight that type of personality? Perhaps it will help her see her own inflexibility.

Just a suggestion.

bubble

I don't envy your situation SG. You are living a lie and you know that if you leave you risk losing everyone you love. So you consign yourself to a life of unhappiness.

You have to ask yourself if it's worth it.

There is life on the other side I promise you.

Good luck. XXX

Still Groggy: Double Agent's Blog #001 - "Pressure Building"

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