The Need To Question Atheism

by The wanderer 142 Replies latest jw friends

  • IP_SEC
    IP_SEC

    every human alive *probably* is an athiest. Some atheists just reject one more god than than the majority of athiests.

  • olvidado
    olvidado

    I am not sure about how God is and which relationship he has with us, but it is hard for me to think that there is no god. There is something inside me which makes consider the idea of a universe without god as something difficult to accept. Some people would say that this feeling is the "seed of faih" planted by god in every human soul; other people would say that this is just a psychological mecanism to cope with life, an impression we created inside us. I dont know, and for the moment, after so many years thinking about how I had to please god, it is a matter I want to put it off. Thats why I say I am agnostic, because I like the idea of a god father, but I dont want to spend more time thinking about how he is, what he wants, etc. Anyway, I know people who say that they believe in god because they think the moral values must be based on the existence of god, that withour god, people behave with no moral limits. You know, describing atheists as bad people, without control. I think that is an extreme point of view. I think you can have moral values on a humanistic base, without god playing a role in your way of behaving. I think it is a very symplistic point of view considering the believers of god as moral people and atheists as the amoral ones.

  • IP_SEC
    IP_SEC
    "were we born just to die?"

    Everyone is born to die. I am not aware of anyone who has not died. If you affect others around you, your name will live on for a time that is proportional to the affect you had on the world... good or bad.

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    the question that lingers
    in my mind is "were we born just to die?"

    We were born to be wild.

  • DJK
    DJK

    I'm an Atheist. If he came down to prove he exists, I will tell him like it is. I keep my friends close, my enemie's closer and God will be closer with his head under my heel.

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    Very interesting fact(in conjunction with IP SEC's observation):

    The word atheist was first utilized by the Romans to describe the god-rejecting Christians.

    Nvr

  • golf2
    golf2

    As a Native American Indian, I didn't need the Bible to believe in God. We believe in a Creator and in our Mohawk language we call him "Our maker, one who made us". We call the earth, Mother. Our language has life to it and it is reflected in our personal lives.

    Just another view.


    Golf

  • AlmostAtheist
    AlmostAtheist

    Other atheists have covered the "what's an atheist" question, so I'll just say "what they said" on that.

    The meaning of life, or purpose of life, is a little trickier. Everything in our lives has a purpose, that's why it was made. Forks, DVD players, tube socks, hell even Country music has a purpose. (Or so I'm told) So we see life and figure it MUST have a purpose, too. We equate our stuff with life stuff and look for the intelligent purpose behind it.

    But what if life isn't quite like that? What if life is more a result of natural processes, than a directed, purposeful action on someone's part? Like a ball rolling down a hill. It didn't roll for a purpose, per se, but just because that's what it does by nature.

    I wouldn't say we're "born to die", but rather that we're "born to reproduce". If any purpose can be post-imposed on life, it would be to make more life like itself. We humans have the unfortunate property of intelligence and are able to question that purpose, acknowledge that it's not all that much of a purpose, and wonder if there isn't something else to it all. But wondering it doesn't make it so.

    I've heard it said that the only purpose in life is the purpose we put into it. That seems as noble as anything else, so I'll go with that for now.

    Dave

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk
    But wondering it doesn't make it so.

    Amen Brother AlmostAtheist.

    Nvr

  • Kenneson
    Kenneson

    Nietzche once said: "He who has a WHY to live for can bear with almost any HOW."

    And that is the perspective given by Victor Frankl. As a concentration camp inmate he discovered that the prisoners (those not put to death) who had a reason to live were the ones who did not give up and survived.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man's_Search_for_Meaning

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