by minimus 217 Replies latest jw friends
I was talking about the early morning shows on the hip hop stations like the russ parr show. also the race card is brought up everytime someone gets in trouble in the nba,nfl and everywhere else, and who is always in the middle of everything shaperton. Love black people but I think this guy causes more contreversy than he does good.
I think Imus is ignorant for what he said so I am not sticking up for him, but let it work both ways
Little Black Sambo http://youtube.com/watch?v=qSfGvptL_TY
I have acknowledged that there is a double standard, and I don't think that anyone is claiming that there isn't. The point is, that's irrelevant. There are things that are offensive if said by certain people, and this cuts across all cultures and color lines. There are double standards everywhere, but that is not a license to intentionally use terms that are known to be offensive.
Double standards are not used as a "license to intentionally use terms that are known to be offensive." When applied, they are a contributor to and perpetuator of racial tension.
There is a choice:
-Condemn all persons for offensive language.
-Condemn no one for offensive language.
Condemning some--but not others--is to invest in a nice, bright future for racism. Can you agree with this?
It's this simple:
If you DON'T want race relations to improve, you will continue to abide double standards.
If you DO want race relations to improve, you will stop abiding double standards.
Don't get me wrong, I am not advocating the use of the n-word by anyone. Personally, I don't think that the n-word should be used by anyone because I think that it has negative connotations no matter what. But if every black person in the world stopped using it, do you SERIOUSLY believe that will stop the white people who use it from using it or viewing black people as such?
I wish it were that simple.
It will be duly noted the next time a double standard is used against you.
There are going to be double standards no matter what. They are used against me, and that is why I don't use certain terms to refer to people that other people of their same race might use. I just don't say those things, and that doesn't affect my life in the least. Why is this type of double standard such a big deal?
Bugs Bunny Cartoon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YXZaJgiea8&NR=1
It isn't a big deal, EM, if you've decided that we're not all part of the human race--and that it's best to adopt an "us" and "them" mentality.
Example: If I didn't want my daughter to use foul language, I'd have to come to grips with my own use of foul language. Sure, some adults think it's okay for their children to use profanity--when they get a bit older. So they confine their own profanity to conversations outside of their childrens' earshot. I'm not saying this is wrong--if that's how someone feels. But if they felt strongly enough that profanity was just wrong, and they wanted to set this example for their kids, people of character might decide they were going to stop using such language themselves.
And one thing's for sure: If they choose instead to use profanity, they'd be hypocritical in expecting their children not to.
Repeat: Anytime you say, "It's okay for me because of my race--but not okay for you because of yours," you are validating racism and perpetuating racial tension.
Repeat: Anytime you say, "It's okay for me because of my race--but not okay for you because of yours," you are validating racism and perpetuating racial tension.
This has been going on for centuries, just read your bible. The Ethiopian eunuch was he a "captain" or "castrated"?
Repeat: Anytime you say, "It's okay for me because of my race--but not okay for you because of yours," you are validating racism and perpetuating racial tension.
As I previously stated, I never said it was okay either way. And I'm glad you gave that example. I don't use the n-word for just that reason - because I don't want my daughter using it. She doesn't listen to rap music for the same reason.
And I don't believe that it is the prevailing view in today's society that it is okay for anyone to use it. In rap songs, that word is bleeped out on radio stations, (at least the ones where I live), so there is certainly the sense that it needs to be censored.
We are all a part of the human race, and I certainly don't have an "us" vs. "them" mentality. Is Jeff Foxworthy perpetuating racial tension or displaying an us vs. them mentality when he jokes about rednecks, or Margaret Cho when she jokes about asians, or are they simply recognizing the humor in the differences between the cultures?
Is it a problem for me that I can't say some of the same things that they say without offending someone? No. big. deal.
Anytime you say, "It's okay for me because of my race--but not okay for you because of yours," you are validating racism and perpetuating racial tension.
Exactly! You're dividing the races not bringing them together. Firing Imus is not going to bring about more understanding but less. It would have been more appropriate to have him apologize to the girls that he talked against and let them work it out! Now it goes to a "we verses them" scenario. No one wins.
We all pick up and use language that we hear often. If we keep hearing the "n" word and the "h" word, you will notice that all the races start saying it. Fact. It doesn't have anything to do with who can say it or why....it's just the way it is.
I don't understand why a cartoon that is over 50 years old was brought up on this board if it causes bad feelings. Personally, I never viewed it as anything but a cartoon, not a reflection on race. I guess every person could jump on the emotional bandwagon and demand no cartoons be about fat people, skinny people, short people, tall people, rednecks, hillbillies, etc.
I am sorry that racism exists. We can all choose whether or not we let it dominate our lives and our friendships.
Swalker
EM, we are not talking about the same things.
I am not saying that comedians shouldn't recognize "the humor in the differences between the cultures."
I am saying that if there is to be any criticism of such, it must be applied to all; not some.
