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Do You Feel Like You Were "Screwed Over" By A Judicial Committee?
by minimus 50 Replies latest jw friends
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betterdaze
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OnTheWayOut
It was a judicial committee that I served on that helped me become AWOKE.
This young lady was confessing freely to loose conduct. She was still a virgin,
she wound up alone with a JW guy and they were guilty of heavy petting and
opening each other's clothing. I am confident that she told us the truth and
nothing but the truth. Did she say "the whole truth" ? Maybe not, but we are talking
about a 20-something year old virgin who is totally embarrassed to be telling this
to 3 married men. His story corroborated hers. It sounded rehearsed, but we
are no experts.Anyway, she was so upset at us. We were worried that this would get out, and we
decided to give her public reproof. That destroyed her. She was so delicate and
worried about her reputation as an independent single woman. There were
circumstances that indicated that it would become public knowledge. We should
have just waited after her private reproof to see if that happened, but no, we asked
"Mother" and Mother said "Announce it." We obeyed.Even after the reproof was announced, she wanted to appeal. I heard the chairman
telling her, there is no appeal to a reproof. It's over. Let it go. I realized that the
JC has way too much power over rank-and-file. We could have easily DF'ed her
for coming to us with a confession, but argueing about private or public reproof.
It almost happened. Why should anyone confess if that's the result?Anyway, she didn't want to let it go, so I told her, "I feel so bad about how you are
dealing with this." She was pretty much shunning the 3 elders. "If even one person
in the congregation feels that I shouldn't be an elder, I would rather step down than
keep serving." (I was looking for a reason to step aside, anyway, this would have
worked.) She was still a wreck, but she didn't bite. She said "No, you guys did
your job." I wish she said yes.Oh, she's still there, and very cold to all 3 of us. Why didn't she say yes?
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Axeman
I did not feel repentant because I did not believe I had done the wrong thing and still don't. I was supposed to stop my 14 year old daughter who was pregnant due to rape from having an abortion. As one Elder on the committe said He would of made her have the child and then adopted it out. No doubt also if the baby when born & needed a life saving blood transfusion he would have been quite happy to kill it off that way. So much for their sanctity of life argument. Am I evil for putting the welfare of my daughter first? God knew my heart those men didn't nor did they care. I believed at the time that God worked through these men that trusting them was to trust God. I continued to attend meetings for the next 8 months at the end of which I still did not agree with their judgement. So I could hardly show any repentance. It's not about having a moral conscience its about power I had to agree with them and repent for doing what they believed was wrong. No way I hate the concept that might is right
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restrangled
Yes I was screwed....after getting help in my later years mentally, I discovered not only was it date rape but spiritual rape.
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blondie
No, but I did help someone "screw over" a JC by proving they were lying to both the CO and the DO. Their asses were grass. It helps that the CO and DO were looking for a reason to reduce the authority of these elders. It was an education to me to what degree some elders will go to.
Blondie
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Tigerman
These replys are extraordinary to me for my whole life I believed that Witnesses, especially the elders, always acted in a just, upright manner and were virtuous and morally right in their decisions, or so I've been told.
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Dawn
Yes. And thank God for that, or I might never have found the door to freedom.
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Save My Soul
Before getting married to my wife, I was at the beach kissing in the parking lot. Three cars cornered me in and sat motionless behind me with the gang member occupants sitting outside. I saw what was happening. I carried 2 guns (A pioneer with guys, this is LA though). While my future wife was in the seat, I waved a gun to allow them to see what was about to occur. They left the scene.
My future wife called me the next day, I ignored her. I eventually ignored her about 18 times over the next 2 weeks. Not sure why? I think it was because I was soooooooooooo cool.
While at the meeting, one of the elders said after I was done in the magazine room to come see him. I said ok.
When I approached him, he called two other elders and they had a judicial meeting with me. I was TRAPPED!!!
They said I had a sister at the beach and tried to have my way with her. In a forcible way. They said she screamed and other people around made me leave her alone. They allowed me to work the sound, have a part on the meeting and do the magazines then prepare to disfellowship me.
I was worried about her seeing the gun, but her conscious was bothering her, so she told an elder than we were at the Santa Monica pier at 0200 kissing. That was it. The elder made up the entire story. He lied on me. He is still the presiding overseer. He dated my wife's sister and had a crush on my wife. Despite the fact that I was on the Dodger Stadium assembly (in front of 55k people) with this guy, he lied on me. He wanted me DF.
They had me convinced that I had fondled her and I actually had to question myself. I assumed the sister made these comments. The elder said she did, but he lied.
I said let's get a meeting with all parties involved. They dropped the issue.
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minimus
On The Way Out-----Why don't you just get out because you KNOW it's the right thing? You don't need validation from another. Be a man and face it. Don't try to salve yourself by hoping to get others to do your work. Once you do it, it is LIBERATING!!!!
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OnTheWayOut
On The Way Out-----Why don't you just get out because you KNOW it's the right thing? You don't need
validation from another. Be a man and face it. Don't try to salve yourself by hoping to get others to do your work.
Once you do it, it is LIBERATING!!!!Read my bio or my threads. I am getting out. It would have been a great excuse. I made the move to
drop elder months later. I went inactive shortly after that. I just stopped going to meetings. So far, I am
on a successful (but fast) fade.It is LIBERATING.