URGENT HELP: I need some help with statistics calculations - please!

by Crumpet 43 Replies latest jw friends

  • jwfacts
    jwfacts

    Hi Crumpet,

    Glad to see you are back and wondering when you will visit us all down under.

    Trust Dark Knight on the French question, he is a programmer so should know. The wording "GNI of the UK is above France" indicates to use the difference divided by the lower amount.

    Trust JH on the second question. 13078 kwh is over 2 times 5480, so the answer must be over 200%.

  • Crumpet
    Crumpet

    JH I think its that you are thinking 2.5 times something is the same as 250% more than something but these arent matching equasions. I am trying to measure the difference as a percentage.

    We're calculating the difference in between I think so it the question of how much of a percentage greater is the quantity you ate above what I ate. So we would take your 5 burgers and subtract my 2.5 burgers to see how much the difference in between was. hence 2.5 then we divide that by the lower figure of my consumption - again 2.5 = 1 x 100 = 100%. You ate 100 % more burgers than I did so in this instance 100% more is exactly double what I ate.

    Am I making any sense anybody - I might be wrong!

  • Caedes
    Caedes

    JH is correct in his subsequent examples but incorrect in his original post, The correct answer is 10.73

    30370 x 1.1073 = 33628 - the difference is due to rounding

    Of course the other answer is correct in as much as France's figure is -9% of the UK one so it just depends on how you want to frame the answer.

    Hth - they dont call it sadistics for nothing you know.

  • Crumpet
    Crumpet

    Russia uses 5480 electricity in kWH per capita - America uses 13078 kwh - am I right now to say that AMerica consumes 72.12% more electricity based on the following calculation:

    13078 - 5480 = 7598 divide 5480 = 0.721 x 100 = 72.12%.

    You're wrong.

    13078 / 5480 = 2.3864 so america uses 238.64 % more per capita

    Okay wait I think its actually 138.64% based on I divided the numbers wrong. It should be Russia's consumption divided by the difference between it and America's consumption which is 7598 divide into 5480 = 1.3864 x 100 = 138.64% higher. When calculating the difference we don't include the base figure .... i Think - oh god this is hard. I'm going to just say nearly twice as high ....

  • Crumpet
    Crumpet

    Russia uses 5480 electricity in kWH per capita - America uses 13078 kwh - am I right now to say that AMerica consumes 72.12% more electricity based on the following calculation:

    13078 - 5480 = 7598 divide 5480 = 0.721 x 100 = 72.12%.

    You're wrong.

    13078 / 5480 = 2.3864 so america uses 238.64 % more per capita

    Okay wait I think its actually 138.64% based on I divided the numbers wrong. It should be Russia's consumption divided by the difference between it and America's consumption which is 7598 divide into 5480 = 1.3864 x 100 = 138.64% higher. When calculating the difference we don't include the base figure .... i Think - oh god this is hard. I'm going to just say nearly twice as high ....

  • JH
    JH

    When you get the correct answer, let me know

  • jwfacts
    jwfacts

    Crumpet, you are confused because a subtle difference in the wording of the questions requires different formulas.

    The first one asks about "the % difference", so compares the difference to the total. The second question asks "how much more" so is comparing one total to the other.

  • Crumpet
    Crumpet

    Crumpet, you are confused because a subtle difference in the wording of the questions requires different formulas.

    The first one asks about "the % difference", so compares the difference to the total. The second question asks "how much more" so is comparing one total to the other.

    Comprende - so in fact JH is right but so am I. What I want to say in all of these answers is how much more so I should take JH answers. However when I am simply comparing the figures I would say the difference is such and such a percent. But I thought the difference and greater than were the same ---- no wonder I am so freaking confused. Thanks for everyone helping!

  • Dark Knight
    Dark Knight

    Hey Crumpet,

    Yeah I think it's the first time I've seen a driver leading the championship without actually having won a race. You keep betting on hamilton getting podiums and I'll keep betting on Webber finishing nowhere near the podium.

    Oh and the second sum is the same as the first one, difference of the two divided by the lower which works out as you said in your last post, US 138.64% more than Russia's.

    Cheers
    DK

  • Caedes
    Caedes

    As I said JH is correct in the subsequent question,

    5480 x 2.3864 = 13077 so 238% is correct

    Percentages do vary depending on which figure you start with.

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