Are UFOs Fact or Fiction? (page 6)

OnTheWayOut

If a flying object is unidentified, it is a UFO. They are real fact.

NOW, what is the UFO? Well, it's still unidentified. So, that's the mystery.

Personally, I think that the U.S. government was developing spy technology and
allowed the stories, even encouraging them, concerning Roswell and other areas.
With the stories running rampant, the tales grow taller.

Illyrian

I've had a couple of strange sightings myself, but what they were I would not be quick to speculate. I've seen some very "credible" people exaggerating the story because of their personal beliefs in the UFO's like Nick Pope. I think eagerness to believe in something, anything make otherwise rational people do irrational things and then they try to rationalize it to make sense of it for both us and them. I don't know just my view I guess.

But as Ellie Arroway puts it The universe is a pretty big place. It's bigger than anything anyone has ever dreamed of before. So if it's just us... seems like an awful waste of space.

Though if it took us millions of years to evolve to this stage, why do we even think it took any less other potential living beings out there? They may be at about the same technological level as we are or even slightly less.

I mean 14 billion years which is the age of the universe leaves only so much room for anything to happen, right? Not to mention that we live in a very old galaxy of 13.6 ± 0.8 billion years i.e. ours was here right from the beginning, and it took us on this planet all this time to develop into something. And yes I took into consideration that different parts of galaxy would cool at different rate so life would appear at different stages. It is just hat we are at the very brim of Milky Way so we had longest time too cool. It seems to me we has some of the most favorable conditions of all and yet here we are at this level of development.

So for a civilization to be a 1000 or even a million years ahead of us technologically something pretty extraordinary had to happen. Prove me wrong.

Mariusuk.

I agree Illyrian

People assume that if life exists it will evolve into a technologically advanced species given enough time but evolution does not work that way, it does not have an "end game". Evolution merely involves giving a species an edge to survive and prosper, the dinosaurs given millions of years never reached anywhere near that level.

I think it is a logical assumption to assume that life does exist elsewhere in the universe but there is a good chance we may be a freak of nature so to speak

Abaddon

The wanderer

Pointing out what seemed to be faults in your thinking process which arose as a result of you being unclear about your thought process (which you admit) is not a lack of respect.

Anything but; I'm treating you like an adult. If you do the same to me we will get on just fine.

A person receives respect in a discussion in proportion to the nature of the accuracy of the facts that support their opinions and how they treat others. A word to the wise; you may not realise it, but in attempting to appear respectful (by saying it in every post) and credible you make your posts sound a little condescending and portentous.

Lighten up a little.

I say this as you make rather comments about how I should conduct myself yet are in need of some friendly advice yourself.

Regards

Gyles

Illyrian

Wanderer I used to wonder about these question before but what occurs to me is that people claim that UFO sightings have been around for centuries. It is really hard to understand why on earth would some advance civilization undertake reconnaissance mission that would last centuries. What for? What would be the reason for it? They would have seen everything from Egypt to today and didn't do a thing to make real contact with humans.

There's gotta be another explanation. I remember as a kid seeing this fire fall slowing going across the sky it was only years later that I learned of ball-lighting. In fact, I'd say I was lucky to see it because most people never see it in their life. Equally there could be other natural phenomenons we are yet to explain. Our mathematical models so far explain things that are everyday and predictable or at least occur with some degree of certainty but we don't really know what happens when different rare phenomena collide any more than we know what is going to happen precisely when two hurricanes collide and even that is a very simplistic explanation.

The wanderer

Dear Gyles:

I did not mean to imply that you had treated
me with disrespect in this thread. I was just
trying to establish some friendly guidelines
for this and future discussions. Truthfully,
that is all.

The point about the use of the word
"respectfully" was well taken.

Richard

The wanderer

Hello, Illyrian:

You have raised some good questions regarding this subject.
However, from my perspective there is no harm in researching,
investigating or exploring the subject matter.

Since, there have been reports or sightings for centuries as
you have made mention in your thread I think the subject is
well worth considering on that basis alone.

Thank you for your perspective on the matter.

Richard

BlackSwan of Memphis

Richard, while others might find your "respectfully" offputting, truthfully, I have never once been bothered by it.

I WOULD add my thoughts to this thread, but truthfully, I really don't feel like getting torn down by people today.

You are a great asset to this forum, and if other people don't like the way you close your posts, my advice to them is pretty simple,

perhaps if more people around here would learn the meaning of the word respectfully and put it into practice, some of us wouldn't be leaving.

Respectfully,

BlackSwan

The wanderer

Dear Gyles:

After having received some personal messages I
have reconsidered my perspective.

Individuals on this board have brought it to
my attention that the word or term "respectfully"
is acceptable to them as a finishing close.

I have concluded that they are 100% correct, because it
is done out of sincerity and goodwill. There
is no compromise in this area.

Thank you to all who have shared your thoughts
regarding this issue.

Respectfully,

Richard

(The Wanderer)

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