The Origin of Fear (page 4)

nvrgnbk

Thanks for your words and for having shared this information purps!

I'm enjoying the path whatever it is, wherever it's taking me.

poppers

M.T. Ness - LOL! No, I haven't heard that one before. I think it's great - go for it! My brother has an alias he uses in his writing: Walter E. Gogh. You two are more clever than me.

poppers

To tetrapod - I got your pm and want to say "thank you" on the board since I am unable to send PMs. poppers

nvrgnbk

Walter E. Gogh.

LOL! It took me a couple of seconds to get that one. Thanks poppers.

From purps: "when you are in "it" you still can feel complete alone."

That's what's totally amazing. There is no more need to seek completion in something or someone else. You in your true essence ARE it. Being "it", how can one feel lonely, how can one feel incomplete? It is such a comfort to finally realized that you are "home", and in fact, always were.

Thanks again, purps, for starting this thread.

purplesofa

Thanks everyone from what I have learned here

esp JamesThomas

purps

purplesofa

This kind of psycological fear is always of something that might happen, not of something that is happeneing now, while your mind is in the future. And if you are identified with your mind and have lost touch with the power and simplicity of the now, that anxiety gap will be your constant companion.

I wanted to bring out how many years I lived in this constant state fearing Armeggedon was any day coming. Of all the things I regret the most of the JW experiance is this. Every single day I was so afraid of the future I missed out on my life and my kids.

When my daughter first started having anxiety attacks and could not go to meetings, she did not want to go as she said, All they talk about is destruction and death, What have I got to look forward to?

I did not grow up as a JW, so I did not live knowing that......and as an adult it was hard to handle so I cant imagine being a kid and taking that on.

Everyday my family and I grow closer, we enjoy and take each day one at a time. For some of my kids its difficult to let go of the past and old built in messages that are harmful, but just having one person in their life that influences them positive for what is going on in their life today seems to be a way of healing.

When taking away fear, the decisions I make today-----take for a brighter future for me.

purps

quietlyleaving

purps

Just wanted to add my experience of Eckhart Tolle.

What I like is that he reccommends to be still with nature. I found that very relaxing and educational because on one level you drink in the beauty of nature and its gentle yet strong presence but on the other hand you become aware of its struggle and agony to be. So there is a sense of agony and ecstasy which imo mirrors life.

So one can observe nature and enter nature metophorically - which enables one to learn to do that with life - the agony and ecstasy of life - but all the time knowing that one can disengage and go to a place that is silent and still to rest and transform.

The part that I was a little sceptical about was what you drew attention to - the alone bit. IMO one has to make an effort to be more gregarious and if you are a naturally non-gregarious sort of person then its going to be very tough to live in the real world. Just my 2p worth.

nvrgnbk

The part that I was a little sceptical about was what you drew attention to - the alone bit. IMO one has to make an effort to be more gregarious and if you are a naturally non-gregarious sort of person then its going to be very tough to live in the real world. Just my 2p worth.

You make an interesting point here ql.

One that has crossed my mind as well.

The way I understand the being "complete alone bit" is that it is not a suggestion that we isolate ourselves from others, rather that we quit finding our identity in others. In other words, who we are is no longer dependent on or defined by another. Actually it may improve interpersonal relationships, because we bring a wholeness to them. IMHO.

poppers

"Actually it may improve interpersonal relationships, because we bring a wholeness to them. IMHO."

Good insight, nvr - give yourself a cookie!

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