Can men discuss feminism critically?

by Paralipomenon 74 Replies latest jw friends

  • sweetstuff
    sweetstuff
    wonder if that guy in office two is really as big as he says
    Uh, guys don't wonder about those sorts of things--at least I never have. Sounds like something a juvenile female would wonder about

    Umm, I know more than a few guys who do wonder about those things.

  • keyser soze
    keyser soze
    Think like a man? No thanks. I don't want to spend my day worrying about wanting to scratch my balls, should I download porn or rent one at the video store,

    You nailed it. That's all there is to the male brain. How enlightening.

  • John Doe
    John Doe
    Umm, I know more than a few guys who do wonder about those things.

    Are they gay?

  • sweetstuff
    sweetstuff
    You nailed it. That's all there is to the male brain. How enlightening.

    It's called a joke.

  • keyser soze
    keyser soze

    I accept that and I apologize. However, most times I hear that from a woman, it isn't a joke.

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    Can men discuss feminism critically?

    If the lady says i can.

    LMAO!

  • sweetstuff
    sweetstuff

    I accept that and I apologize. However, most times I hear that from a woman, it isn't a joke.

    I don't look down at men or women, I take each person, for who they are, not what sex they are.

  • keyser soze
    keyser soze

    If it makes you feel better, Sweetstuff, you definitely summed me up.

  • ness
    ness
    You are mistaken.

    really? well I guess that 3 year politics degree was a complete waste of time as i learnt nothing about the 3 waves of feminism. perhaps you could enlighten me mr doe....

  • Paralipomenon
    Paralipomenon

    SixofNine:

    Here are some of the larger feminist organizations and their current issues.

    NOW's top priority issues:

    Abortion Rights / Reproductive Issues
    Violence Against Women
    Constitutional Equality
    Promoting Diversity / Ending Racism
    Lesbian Rights
    Economic Justice

    Girls speak out:
    * Breast Ironing (a first-of-its kind distance learning project to stop the practice affecting 1 in 4 girls in Cameroun)
    * Poverty and Education
    * Sexual and emotional abuse/neglect
    * HIV/AIDS/health crisis
    * Drug abuse
    * Incarceration
    * Child prostitution and trafficking
    * Unequal access to an education
    * Homelessness
    * Addictions
    * Female genital mutilation
    * Armed conflict

    Equality Now

    RAPE
    DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
    REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS
    TRAFFICKING
    FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION
    POLITICAL PARTICIPATION
    GENDER DISCRIMINATION

    Looking through the list, how many of those are specific to women only? Are feminist women only interested in lesbians, let gay men fend for themselves? Are feminist women only interested in poor women, let poor men fend for themselves? Are feminist women only interested in female circumsission, men should fend for themselves?

    If anything comes out that is contrary to these missions statements, often you will see a press release or comment from the organization criminalizing it. These are a bit more difficult to track down on short notice, but I did find an example:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/08/14/60minutes/main568259.shtml

    Being plugged into politics, I think you'll notice them more when them come up.

    This is my concern. Feminist organizations have done wonders for women. Medical graduates are almost 50% female, the same with bachelor grads, women are being afforded more opportunities in schools and the workplace. Rather than scale back and focus on issues for women, many organizations are focusing on human rights, but only those of females.

    A large push now is for more affordable child care for working mothers. This one rather baffles me. Most working mothers regret having to leave their child at a caregiver, but it is a necessity. So much focus has been put on women need to do it alone, that they are forgetting an angle that I think would work better. Promote homemaking for men. Work to lower the stigma for male homemakers then a woman that wants to focus on a career can do so.

    Most successful career men don't try to raise a family too, why should the stress be put on women? Because men won't help raise a family? Maybe, but shouldn't that be the goal rather than force it all on the woman? From a male perspective I scratch my head when I see this. Is the political feminist movement trying to merge the two sexes into a symbiotic unit, or create two seperate but equal groups?

    Seperate groups are great if you are only thinking about yourself, but children really benefit from having strong male and female role models in their lives. I see the current agenda working great for women, not so great for kids.

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