I need some serious informational help from EVERYONE! (page 2)

blueviceroy

nice to meet you . Your boy friend is in aCULT maybe he wants to be free like a lot of CULT victems . Maybe you could show him this site and tell him to do some research about the CULT he is in . or maybe he should look up the definition of the word CULT so he can see that he is indeed in a cult . Did I mention he is affiliated with a CULT?

mouthy

love him for who he is religion included,

Be warned.... Many that were JWs told me they dated NON JWS because they got sex from them. I am not saying this of yours but I will tell you your life is on the wrong track if your dating a man that is undermind control, he will take over your mind too.

skeeter1

Run, or have a serious discussion with him about his being a Witness. Unless he disassociates himself from the religion, you should stop seeing him. First, he can date & even marry you. But, he will not be in "best" standing with his congregation unless he converts you. His goal will be to convert you to his religion. If you convert, you will live in a virtual hell of a controllling cult. If you try to leave, you will lose all your "friends" and very possibly your marraige. Fathers make the rules. So, your future husband would take his children to church & indoctrinate them from a very young age. They will be told weekly that this world is going to end very, very soon. All people who are not JWs will die at Armegeddon, including their mother if she does not beleive. They must sit absolutely still at the meetings, else others will give dirty looks and encourage your husband to "discipline" the child into being quiet for two plus hours. This includes taking the child outside for a spanking with a tree limb. Your children will never get to celebrate a holiday, and will be told that holidays are pagan and evil. Your children will not be allowed to salute the flag, as one's allegiance is to Jehovah's church. There will be no birthdays or birthday parties, as they too are sinful. If your child or you needs a blood transfusion, the JW parents are expected to not allow it and to fight the doctors. Your children will be highly discouraged from attending college. Beginning at about 12 years old, they will be pressured to hry "baptised". Once baptised, they face being disfellowshipped for slipping up with any of the rules. If they are disfellowshipped before 18, they will still live in your house. But, at 18 years old, the father & all JW family members will cut off vitually almost all contact with the erring child. This is done as a "loving measure" to bring the erring child back to Jehovah. The JW church is full of pedophiles and sex offenders. The culture of the "2 witness rule" makes for a nice stream of kids to prey upon. I think you should visit www.freeminds.org , www.ajwrb.org, www.silentlambs.org , and www.jwfiles.com

sweetface2233

Your alias, dirtysceret, tells me how you feel in your relationship. Religion aside, you deserve better than that. Do you really want to raise your child around someone who is, at least at the present time, hiding you? You should be w/ someone who shouts from the rooftops that you are his girl. Relationships are hard enough w/o bringing JW drama into it. Don't try to get him to leave his religion. If he wants to leave, he will do it on his own in his own time. Ask yourself this, is he, or any man for that matter, really worth all the heartache you are already going through? You already know the answer, just admit it to yourself.

skeeter1

Oh, I forgot to add... If you marry him, and later try to get a divorce....he will have the best legal advice on how to get custody of the children. He will lie in court, and get others to lie in court to get the kids away from you. The Watchtower Society has a nice little book, that it offers to his divorce lawyer. They will paint you as a harlot, and this religion as a beautiful thing. You have to understand, there is nothing more paramount than a JW ensuring their childen make it through Armeggedon. If the child lives with a non-beleiving parent, Jehovah will kill the child at Armeggedon, just as he killed the children in Noah's flood. By him getting custody, he can teach them the Watchtower rules, and make sure they abide by them. Skeeter

sass_my_frass

Are you sure that you will always be happy to be way down on his list of priorities, somewhere here:

- His religion
- His family
- His position in the congregation
- His witness friends
- His responsibilities and privileges within the congregation
- You

Are you sure you don't want to change that about him? Because it's obvious that you're not very important to him at the moment.

sass_my_frass

BTW, this comes up a lot:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/32/77159/1.ashx

Also look in the 'relationships' section of the board. Every few weeks some poor guy or girl in love with a JW stumbles in here bewildered. It's always a mess, but they always think that they're different and they're the ones who will make it work.

He can't focus on a life with you until he sorts out what he wants to do with the religion. He is cheating on the religion by sleeping with you, and cheating on you by hiding you from them. Can't you see that he's playing both you and them? He may be confused about what he believes, but that's no excuse for playing you. He'll keep doing this until you realise that you want to be treated better and dump him. He'll just be relieved that you didn't cause him a problem in his other life, like when a married man breaks up with a mistress.

Shawn10538

The man is just not honest, end of story. He is lying to the people he says are the most important to him. He is breaking all the rules and getting away with it (he was with a nonJW before.) An interesting thing about Witnesses is that they don't really know what it means to tell the truth. They are forced to repeat lies so often that they can't tell the difference anymore. As a JW he is allowed to use theocratic tact in dealing with outsiders. Let me explain: Theocratic tact is the doctrine that says you can lie to those who do not deserve the truth. Who doesn't deserve the truth? YOU don't deserve the truth, because YOU are an outsider, and a worldly person. Worldly people are in the grasp of Satan and therefore do no deserve the truth. he can lie to you to infinity and never feel a twinge of conscience because it is technically OK with his religion that he do that. They also call this doctrine theocratic warfare.

Seriously, you just can't have a normal healthy relationship with someone who is deceiving every one he loves in this world. you can't have a normal relationship with a cult member. If he marries you, god forbid, he will ever try to convert you. he will never ever stop trying to convert you, because he loves you and believes that if you don't convert you will die at the hand of god. HE WILL NEVER ADMIT TO THE THINGS WE ARE SAYING HERE as long as he is still defending his religion.

Let the record show that we have warned you of the pending disaster. If you go for it anyway, God help you.

JK666

Yo honey, you may be a secret, but you are not dirty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is messed up in the head. Run far, far away!

JK

sf

He was always a little shady from the beginning with tons of secrets no one understood and when this came out it explained everything but also tore a lot of things apart.

Seriously. You knew this and are still with the character?

Put your running shoes on and bolt.

If you don't, don't complain about life afterwards.

You chose it.

sKally

I need some serious informational help from EVERYONE!

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