They want to make me an elder :-O

by outofthebox 91 Replies latest jw friends

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  undercover

  I can see only one reason to accept the position, if offered...

  If one is trying to work their way up the ladder to a position of being able to damage the Society if one chose to. A mole, in CIA lingo. Work your way up, play the game, lie, cheat and steal as necessary so as to ingratiate yourself into the inner circle. Then when you've accumulated enough evidence to seriously damage them, you make your escape and alert the free world to the sinister side of the Society.

  However, the average person isn't cut out to be a spy, so I recommend not taking the position.
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  allreadygone

  First, no one here should judge right or wrong your decision. But I must agree with Finally free and Changeling, the deception and outright lies of the WT is what brought most of us here. We seek truth! Second, having been an MS for many years [Years ago] I know the time it takes away from family, and home. And if you have children remember, they will only be this age once. Your time with them is priceless, don't waste it on doing the work of the Borg. On the other hand it would be kind of funny. Gone
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  tooktheredpill

  TTRP: your avatar shows a female symbol. Do you have something to tell us????

  Changeling: What female symbol? That's Neo coming out of the Matrix!
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  nvrgnbk

  I say yes -> My family is happy -> I blow my cover -> My family realizes everything is a lie -> GOOD

  Sounds like a winner.

  I tried to step down many times, unsuccessfully.

  I moved, not geographically, but to another congregation, and by my sporadic attendance and poor field service performance I made my reappointment a non-possibility.

  It's never been announced that I'm no longer an elder.

  I'm inactive.
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  OUTLAW

  They want to make you an Elder??............Dare you pass though them?.............Listen to Blondie..Reduce your service hours and say.."No Thanks"....................OUTLAW
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  outofthebox

  Some comments on your comments. Which I appreciate by the way (all of them. You say it like it is!)

  If my math skills are still working:

  11 comments said: YES! Do it! Screw them!
  12 comments said: NO! Run! Are you insane!
  13 comments said: It is your life dude! Who am I to tell you what to do?

  I love Blondie comment about dropping the hours immediatly! LOL. I think it is too late for that.

  And I like nvrgnbk idea: Do it and change of congregation.

  But more important: Yes tooktheredpill, you are also more than a brother to me, you know that, but what's up with the female sign!!! LOL LOL.
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  SirNose586

  This is my conundrum:

  I say no -> My family is unhappy -> BAD

  I say yes -> My family is happy -> I blow my cover -> My family is unhappy -> BAD

  I say yes -> My family is happy -> I blow my cover -> My family realizes everything is a lie -> GOOD

  I say yes -> My family is happy -> I keep quiet -> I try to help -> GOOD & BAD

  As you can see, the problem is choice.

  Here's how you might play it out...

  Choice 1: If you say no, you can give the BoE a bull**** excuse like masturbating or smoking or somesuch other excuse to get out of it. That meeting will feel like hell, but it will get you out. Also, missing turning in your time or lowering your hours will get you off the hook.

  Choice 2: This is what will happen if you say yes and blow your cover. Choice 3 is, in all seriousness, an impossibility UNLESS--and this a very big unless--they've exhibited freethinking patterns of behavior before. If not, then no, choice 2 will be the outcome for outing yourself. And, it will make them very upset as you've "lied to the Brooklyn rubberstamp Holy Spirit."

  Choice 4: You'll keep things at an even keel, but for how long? And at what cost to yourself? In fact, I take back my earlier comments about being vindictive and getting the inside scoop. Revenge is fun for a short while, but the damage to yourself will last some time. You'll be notching yourself even higher in the publishing company. Do you really want to do that?

  Screw leaving ambiguous advice. Don't take the job, outofthebox!
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  worldtraveller

  FF said it right. Most here condemn the Watchtower for the endless lies they tell. But if you yourself are living a lie as well, you are no better than they are. Your character is in question when you cannot be honest with yourself. You have a right to speak your mind-please do so. Lying solves nothing in this situation. You are no better than the society you criticise. If every member of the society spoke honestly, there would be no society left.

  HEY! Still love the hat on the bird. I tried to put one on our cat, but , well, you know cats.
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  tooktheredpill

  Hey! Just say that you had a gambling problem, and your conscience don't let you accept the priviledge(tm), knowing that you failed before
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  Will Power

  Here's an idea ...... Before you accept, sit down and write a letter about how you feel about the WT org, and God (keeping them separate) making sure to list UN, pedophile problem, mis quotes, false prophecies - long list. DATE IT AND SEND IT TO YOURSELF REGISTERED MAIL TO HAVE THE DATE IMMORTALIZED. then after the holy spirit appointment, you can prove to your family that the WT hs is totally man made. wp