Will this be "the Sign of the Son of Man"?

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  • a Christian
    a Christian

    Forgive me if this has been posted here before.

    I just read about a comet that is now heading our way that will come closer to us than our moon. This comet will be visible in earth's skies on April 13th ( Good Friday, the day of Christ's death ) in the year 2029. It will then return exactly seven years later on April 13 ( Easter Sunday, the day of Christ's resurrection ) in the year 2036. It is said that its 2029 pass through the earth's skies and its gravitational pull may alter its orbit just a little bit so that upon its return in 2036 it may strike the earth.

    Those dates ( Good Friday and Easter Sunday exactly seven years apart ) and their timing ( 2,000 years after the beginning of the seventieth week of Daniel's Seventy Weeks prophecy - AD 29 - and then 2,000 years after the end of the seventieth week of Daniel's Seventy Weeks prophecy - AD 36 ) seem to me to be absolutely apocalyptic. Could this comet be the "huge star" that "falls from heaven burning like a torch" called "Wormwood"? (Rev. 8:10,11) Could this comet also be "the sign of the Son of Man" which Christ said "will appear in the sky" just before his return? (Matt. 24:30) The dates this comet will appear in earth's skies, first on Good Friday and then exactly seven years later on Easter Sunday, will certainly draw people's attention to Jesus Christ. And isn't that what a "sign" does, draw attention to its sponsor? This information comes from NASA's Web site and other credible sources. http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/apophis/ Google either of those dates (April 13, 2029 and April 13, 2036) to find more information. Very interesting stuff.

  • dinah
    dinah

    It might hold people's attention for a 5-minute "awwwwww"

    I probably won't even be here by then.

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    It's meaningful coincidences like these that made Pastor Russell a very successful man.

    Now if there'd be a lunar eclipse on that day, that would be even better.

  • a Christian
    a Christian

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis

    99942 Apophis

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    Discovery
    Discovered by:Roy A. Tucker,
    David J. Tholen, and
    Fabrizio Bernardi
    Discovery date:June 19, 2004
    Designations
    Alternative names:2004 MN 4
    Minor planet category:Aten
    Orbital characteristics
    EpochNovember 26 , 2005 ( JD 2453700.5)
    Aphelion164.351 Gm (1.099 AU)
    Perihelion:111.633 Gm (0.746 AU)
    Semi-major axis:137.992 Gm (0.922 AU)
    Eccentricity:0.191
    Orbital period:323.587 d (0.89 a)
    Avg. orbital speed:30.73 km/s
    Mean anomaly:111.000°
    Inclination:3.331°
    Longitude of ascending node:204.466°
    Argument of perihelion:126.364°
    Physical characteristics
    Dimensions:~270 m [1]
    Mass:2.6 × 10 10kg [2]
    Mean density:? g/cm³
    Equatorial surface gravity:?
    Escape velocity:~0.58 km/hr [2]
    Rotation period:~30 hr [3]
    Albedo:0.33 [1] [3]
    Temperature:~290 K (assuming 0.1 albedo)
    Spectral type:?
    Absolute magnitude:19.7 [1] [3]

    Close approach of Apophis on April 13, 2029 The white bar indicates uncertainty in the range of positions 99942 Apophis 99942 Apophis

    99942 Apophis (pronounced /?'po?f?s/ , previously known by its provisional designation2004 MN 4) is a near-Earth asteroid that caused a brief period of concern in December 2004 because initial observations indicated a relatively large probability (up to 2.7%) that it would strike the Earth in 2029. Additional observations provided improved predictions that eliminated the possibility of an impact on Earth or the Moon in 2029. However there remained a possibility that during the 2029 close encounter with Earth, Apophis would pass through a gravitational keyhole, a precise region in space no more than about 400 meters across, that would set up a future impact on April 13, 2036. This possibility kept the asteroid at Level 1 on the Torino impact hazard scale until August 2006. It broke the record for the highest level on the Torino Scale, being, for only a short time, a level 4, before it was lowered. [4]

    Additional observations of the trajectory of Apophis revealed the "keyhole" would likely be missed and on August 5, 2006, Apophis was lowered to a Level 0 on the Torino Scale. As of October 19, 2006, the impact probability for April 13, 2036, is estimated at 1 in 45,000. An additional impact date in 2037 has been identified; however, the impact probability for that encounter is 1 in 12.3 million.

    Despite the fact that there is no longer any significant probability of an Earth impact, the Planetary Society is offering $50,000 in prize awards for a few of the best plans to put a tracking device on or near the asteroid. [5]

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    [edit] Basic data

    Apophis belongs to a group called the "Aten asteroids", asteroids with an orbital semi-major axis less than one astronomical unit. This particular one has an orbital period about the Sun of 323 days, and its path brings it across Earth's orbit twice on each passage around the Sun.

    Based upon the observed brightness, Apophis's length was estimated at 415 m (1350 ft); a more refined estimate based on spectroscopic observations at NASA's Infrared Telescope Facility in Hawaii by Binzel, Rivkin, Bus, and Tokunaga (2005) is 350 m (1150 ft). Its mass is estimated to be 4.6 × 10 10 kg.

    As of February 2005 it is predicted that the asteroid will pass just below the altitude of geosynchronous satellites, which are at 35,786 km (22,300 mi). Apophis' brightness will peak at magnitude 3.3, with a maximum angular speed of 42° per hour. Such a close approach by an asteroid of this size is expected to occur only every 1,300 years or so. The maximum apparent angular diameter will be ~2 arcseconds, which means it will be a starlike point of light in all but the very largest telescopes.

    [edit] Discovery

    Apophis was discovered on June 19, 2004, by Roy A. Tucker, David J. Tholen, and Fabrizio Bernardi of the NASA-funded University of Hawaii Asteroid Survey from Kitt Peak National Observatory in Arizona. This group observed for two nights. The new object received the provisional designation 2004 MN 4 .

    On December 18, the object was rediscovered from Australia by Gordon Garradd of the Siding Spring Survey, another NASA-funded NEA survey. Further observations from around the globe over the next several days allowed the Minor Planet Center to confirm the connection to the June discovery.

    [edit] Naming

    When first discovered, the object received the provisional designation 2004 MN 4 (sometimes written 2004 MN4), and news and scientific articles about it referred to it by that name. When its orbit was sufficiently well calculated it received the permanent number 99942 (on June 24, 2005), the first numbered asteroid with Earth-impact solutions (to its orbit determination from observations). Receiving a permanent number made it eligible for naming, and it promptly received the name "Apophis" as of July 19, 2005. Apophis is the Greek name of the Ancient Egyptian enemy of Ra: Apep, the Uncreator, a serpent that dwells in the eternal darkness of the Duat (underworld) and tries to swallow Ra during His nightly passage. Apep is held at bay by Set, the Ancient Egyptian god of Chaos.

    Although the Greek name for the Egyptian god may be appropriate, Tholen and Tucker (two of the co-discovers of the asteroid) are reportedly fans of the TV series Stargate SG-1. The show's main antagonist in the first several seasons was an alien named Apophis who took the name for the Egyptian god and sought to destroy Earth. [6] .

    [edit] Close approaches

    After the Minor Planet Center confirmed the June discovery of Apophis (then known only as 2004 MN 4 ), the next close approach was computed to be April 13, 2029 by the automatic Sentry system of NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office. NEODyS, a similar automatic system at the University of Pisa, Italy and the University of Valladolid, Spain also calculated this same approach date. On that date, it will become as bright as magnitude 3.3 (visible to the naked eye from rural and some darker suburban areas, visible with binoculars from most locations [7] ). This close approach will be visible from Europe, Africa, and western Asia. As a result of its close passage, it will move from the Aten (see below) to the Apollo class.

    After the June discovery was confirmed, observatories throughout the world computed the probability of impact. Over the next several days, additional observations allowed for astronomers to narrow the cone of error. As they did, the probability of an impact event climbed, peaking at 2.7% (1 in 37). Combined with its size, this caused Apophis to be assessed at level four out of ten on the Torino Impact Hazard Scale and 1.10 on the Palermo scale, scales scientists use to represent the danger of an asteroid hitting Earth. These are the highest values for which any object has been rated on either scale.

    On Friday, April 13, 2029, Apophis will pass the earth within the orbits of geosynchronouscommunication satellites. [8] It will return for another close Earth approach in 2036.

    Precovery observations from March 15, 2004 were identified on December 27, and an improved orbit was computed [9] . Radar astrometry further refined the orbit. The 2029 pass will actually be much closer than the first predictions, but the uncertainty is such that an impact is ruled out. The pass on April 13, 2036 was also determined to carry little risk.

    The close approach in 2029 will substantially alter the object's orbit, making predictions uncertain without more data. "If we get radar ranging in 2013 [the next good opportunity], we should be able to predict the location of 2004 MN 4 out to at least 2070." said Jon Giorgini of JPL [10] .

    In July 2005, former Apollo astronaut Rusty Schweickart, as chairman of the B612 Foundation, formally asked NASA to investigate the possibility that the asteroid's post-2029 orbit could be in orbital resonance with the Earth, which would increase the probability of future impacts. Schweickart asked for an investigation of the necessity of placing a transponder on the asteroid for more accurate tracking of how its orbit is affected by the Yarkovsky effect [11] .

    [edit] History of estimates

    • The original NASA report on December 23, 2004, mentioned impact chances of "around 1 in 300", which was widely reported in the media. [4] The actual NASA estimates at the time were 1 in 233; they resulted in the Torino scale rating of 2, the first time any asteroid had received a rating above 1.
    • Later that day, based on a total of 64 observations, the estimates were changed to 1 in 62 (1.6%), resulting in an update to the initial report and an upgrade to a Torino scale rating of 4.
    • On December 25, the chances were first reported as 1 in 42 (2.4%) and later that day (based on 101 observations) as 1 in 45 (2.2%). At the same time, the asteroid's estimated diameter was lowered from 440 m to 390 m and its mass from 1.2×10 11 kg to 8.3×10 10 kg.
    • On December 26 (based on a total of 169 observations), the impact probability was still estimated as 1 in 45 (2.2%), the estimates for diameter and mass were lowered to 380 m and 7.5×10 10 kg, respectively.
    • On December 27 (based on a total of 176 observations), the impact probability was raised to 1 in 37 (2.7%); diameter was increased to 390 m, and mass to 7.9×10 10 kg.
    • On December 27 in the afternoon, a precovery increased the span of observations to 287 days and allowed more accurate calculations to re-rate the asteroid's 2029 approach as level zero on the Torino scale (no threat). The cumulative impact probability was estimated to be around 0.004%, a lower risk than asteroid 2004 VD 17 , which once again became the greatest risk object (a position it had held since late November 2004). A 2053 approach to the earth still poses a minor risk of impact, and Apophis was still rated at level one on the Torino scale for this orbit.
    • On December 28 at 12:23 GMT and (based on a total of 139 observations), produced a value of one on the Torino scale for 2044-04-13.29 and 2053-04-13.51.
    • By 01:10 GMT on December 29 the only pass rated 1 on the Torino scale was for 2053-04-13.51 based on 139 observations spanning 287.71 days (2004-Mar-15.1104 to 2004-Dec-27.8243).
    • By 19:18 GMT on December 29 this was still the case based upon 147 observations spanning 288.92 days (2004-Mar-15.1104 to 2004-Dec-29.02821), though the close encounters have changed and been reduced to 4 in total.
    • By 13:46 GMT on December 30 no passes were rated above 0, based upon 157 observations spanning 289.33 days (2004-Mar-15.1104 to 2004-Dec-29.44434). The most dangerous pass was rated at 1 in 7,143,000.
    • By 22:34 GMT on December 30, 157 observations spanning 289.33 days (2004-Mar-15.1104 to 2004-Dec-29.44434). One pass at 1 (Torino Scale) 3 other passes.
    • By 03:57 GMT on January 2, 2005, 182 observations spanning 290.97 days (2004-Mar-15.1104 to 2004-Dec-31.07992) One pass at 1 (Torino Scale) 19 other passes.
    • By 14:49 GMT on January 3, 2005 observations spanning 292.72 days (2004-Mar-15.1104 to 2005-Jan-01.82787) One pass at 1 (Torino Scale) 15 other passes.
    • Extremely precise radar observations at Arecibo Observatory on January 27, 28, and 30 refine the orbit further and show that the April, 2029 close approach will occur at only 5.6 Earth radii, approximately one-half the distance previously estimated.
    • A radar observation on August 7, 2005, refines the orbit further and eliminates the possibility of an impact in 2035. Only the pass in 2036 remains at Torino Scale 1.
    • A new radar observation at Arecibo Observatory on May 6, 2006 slightly lowered the Palermo scale rating, but the pass in 2036 remained at Torino Scale 1 despite the impact probability dropping by a factor of four.
    • Additional observations through 2006 resulted in Apophis being lowered to Torino Scale 0 on August 6, 2006.

    [edit] Possible impact effects

    Area where the asteroid could have impacted on Earth. Area where the asteroid could have impacted on Earth.

    NASA initially estimated the energy that Apophis would have released if it struck Earth as the equivalent of 1480 megatons of TNT. A later, more refined NASA estimate was 880 megatons. The impacts which created the Barringer Crater or caused the Tunguska event are estimated to be in the 3-10 megaton range [12] The 1883 eruption of Krakatoa was the equivalent of roughly 200 megatons.

    The exact effects of any impact would have varied based on the asteroid's composition, and the location and angle of impact. Any impact would have been extremely detrimental to an area of thousands of square kilometres, but would have been unlikely to have long-lasting global effects, such as the initiation of an impact winter.

  • oompa
    oompa
    a christian: Could this comet be the "huge star" that "falls from heaven burning like a torch" called "Wormwood"? (Rev. 8:10,11) Could this comet also be "the sign of the Son of Man" which Christ said "will appear in the sky" just before his return?

    Christy, I agree it could indeed be so.

    Now will you agree with me that the entire book could be a bunch of horse poopee?....just maybe?......................................oompa

  • a Christian
    a Christian

    From space.com

    Astronaut Asks Congress to Investigate Threatening Asteroid
    By Leonard David
    Senior Space Writer
    posted: 19 May 2005
    09:59 am ET

    WASHINGTON, D.C. - A former NASA astronaut will call on the U.S. Congress to evaluate an asteroid with a small chance of hitting Earth in 2036 and suggest lawmakers consider a space mission to monitor the object, SPACE.com has learned.

    Russell Schweickart arrives here today to make his case. He'll also ask Congress to assign to a government agency the responsibility of protecting the public from space rocks.

    The call to action stems from an orbiting hunk of stone that for a few days around Christmas had scientists on the edges of their seats.

    The asteroid, named 2004 MN4, was found last year. It orbits the Sun but crosses the path of Earth . In December, preliminary observations showed it might strike in 2029, according to NASA scientists. It briefly had the highest odds ever assigned to a possible collision. Further investigation ruled out the 2029 impact scenario, but scientists cannot yet rule out an impact in 2036.

    The odds of a collision in 2036 are about 1-in-10,000, Schweickart says.

    In fact, there are several scenarios between 2034 and 2065 in which 2004 MN4 has even smaller odds of striking. Schweickart and other scientists stress, however, that future observations are likely to reduce all these odds to zero.

    Time to act

    Meanwhile, Schweickart thinks the time to act is now.

    SPACE.com was provided a copy of the paper Schweickart will present. In it, he carries out an informal analysis of the situation. He notes that the asteroid will be mostly out of view from 2006 to 2012. When it re-emerges, fresh observation will likely reduce the 2036 impact chance to zero, he said.

    "However, there is a slim chance that we will not be able to draw this conclusion and that an impact will still be possible," he writes.

    "One of the first things I'm calling for is validation and checking of the analysis I've gone through and the conclusions that fall out of my work," Schweickart told SPACE.com.

    Schweickartheads up the B612 Foundation, which since 2003 has advocated for more research and action to protect Earth from stray asteroids.

    Call to action

    Should his analysis prove correct after formal study, Schweickart says serious consideration should be given to first placing a radio transponder on the asteroid in order to better track its whereabouts.

    The former Apollo astronaut will take his message to Congressional lawmakers and detail his concerns at the International Space Development Conference being held here this week by the National Space Society, a space advocacy organization.

    Astronomers agree that sooner or later Earth will be struck by a damaging asteroid. While one could sneak up on us any day, the overwhelming odds are that any potential significant impact will be known years in advance.

    NASA has been charged by Congress with finding potentially hazardous space rocks. Yet only last year, after a separate brief scare, did officials formalize lines of communication between NASA's top brass and the astronomers who find and monitor space rocks.

    Still, there are no formal lines of communication between NASA and the White House to handle an imminent threat. And there is no U.S. agency to which the issue of protection of the public and property from the impact of near-Earth asteroids is assigned, Schweickart points out. Who would decide on whether and how to deflect an incoming threat? What agencies would be mobilized to deal with an impact?

    The U.S. Congress should take action and assign that responsibility, he said.

    "In general, I am calling upon them is to address the overall issue of responsibility for near-Earth object activity in the U.S. government, which does not exist right now," Schweickart said.

    Close brush

    Asteroid 2004 MN4was discovered through the efforts of NASA's Spaceguard Survey.

    The object is estimated to be roughly 1,000 feet (320 meters) in diameter. Were it to hit the planet, it would not cause global devastation but would generate considerable local or regional damage, experts say.

    "This is not a marginal asteroid," Schweickart said.

    On April 13, 2029, 2004 MN4 will be about 22,600 miles (36,350 kilometers) from Earth's center. That is just below the altitude of geosynchronous satellites.

    The extremely rare event will be visible from certain parts of Earth.

    The flyby will change the orbit of the asteroid and create "a low, but real possibility" that it will return to hit Earth seven years later on April 13, 2036, Schweickart advised.

    There are no formal plans in place, at NASA or elsewhere, for destroying or deflecting an incoming asteroid. But if it needs to be nudged off course, you don't wait until after 2029, Schweickart explained. By then it will take far more energy to deflect the rock, he said.

    "We've got to start taking some action right now...to give us accurate enough information...so that we could make a rationale decision whether or not it needs to be deflected. That's the key," Schweickart said.

    If the object were indeed found to have Earth's name on it, or even a ten percent chance of hitting, Schweickart figures it would be prudent to mount a deflecting mission, which might cost a billion dollars.

    "Given the devastation that would occur, everyone would want to commit to a deflection mission," Schweickart said. In fleshing out his preliminary analysis, an estimated "path of risk" has been plotted out.

    Tsunami Animations

    Steven Ward, a geophysicist at the University of California, Santa Cruz, has simulated the possible consequences of an ocean impact by asteroid 2004 MN4 in 2036.

    Simulations of land-based impacts can be estimated at an online catastrophe calculator.

    Since Earth is 70 percent ocean, any possible impact might logically be a splashdown. Schweickart lays out one scenario -- again, the odds of such a result are very small -- in which 2004 MN4 hits the Pacific Ocean, about 680 miles (1,100 kilometers) off the Southern California coast. The entire western coastline of the United States would experience a devastating tsunami , resulting in billions of dollars worth of damage, Schweickart says.

    Course of action is clear

    In his paper to be presented this Friday at the National Space Society meeting, Schweickart suggests spending roughly $300 million to dispatch a robotic scientific mission to 2004 MN4. The probe's duty would be to park a radio transponder on the asteroid. Additionally, the mission would relay back to Earth the asteroid's vitals, such as its surface and interior properties.

    "This information is in itself invaluable, both for scientific knowledge and for the design of systems necessary to perform an asteroid deflection, whenever it becomes necessary," Schweickart notes.

    The accuracy of optical and radar tracking of the asteroid, he said, is likely to be inadequate to make a timely decision to redirect the path of the worrisome space rock if, indeed, such a deflection should be needed.

    Given data from the radio transponder, scientists would be able to conclude by 2014 that the asteroid whether the asteroid has a decent chance of hitting or not, Schweickart figures.

    "Either way...our course of action is clear," he said. "We either plan another series of cocktail parties to watch the asteroid go by in 2036 -- as we will have done in 2029 -- or we mount the most important space mission in human history."

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    "Will this be "the Sign of the Son of Man"?"

    I'd bet all my money on it. And you should too.

    :pats "a Christian's" challenged little head:

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    If we measure the diameter of the comet and multiply it by 7 times and then add 2520 orbits around the sun it is definite that the Watchtower god has a great stone witness in the skies that proclaim OBVES is the real deal.

    Listen to OBVES says the Watchtower god so that your days upon the earth may be lengthened and millions now living will never die.

  • OBVES
    OBVES

    We don't look for the understanding of what the sign of the Man could mean at NASA in Houston ! We search the Bible for clues and we get more and more understanding.

    The present era 1984 AD - 2011 AD seems to be the time when God Yahweh allows for the better understanding of the Bible. I myself was considering the period 2029 AD - 2033 AD - 2036 AD as the very corresponding period of 29 AD-33 AD - 36 AD with 2000 years counted after.

    But there are some more factors that must be considered to put aside that period at least for some 4 years.

    The year 2011 AD comes into view even for this one reason as I have come to the understanding that 12 stars we read in Matthew 24.29 can mean 12 years !

    Christ is called the Morning Star and I ascribed one year to that star at the beginning of the end-time era.

    1878 AD - 1879 AD ( Tishrey = Sept/Oct)

    1999 AD marked the end of the Spiritual Tribulation : 1984 AD - 1999 AD with the solar eclipse on August 11,1999 and the lunar eclipse on January,21,2000.

    From the fall 2000 AD we count 12 falling stars as 12 years = 2011 AD.

    The Sign of the Son of Man should appear in 2011 AD.This could be the realization that the final time has come for all mankind .The last letter in the Hebrew is Tau which resembles a letter " t " like a cross . The last letter so the last time has arrived .

    Note since it fits that 120 years pass for the end of the world to take place like it was during Noah's days we must go back 120 years from 2029 AD - 120 = 1909 AD 2033 AD - 120 years = 1912 AD 2036 AD - 120 = 1916 AD

    The dates like 1912 AD and 1916 AD didn't come into view in my end-time calculations.

    The date 2034 AD is very good for prediction as 120 years back we come to 1914 AD which was a significant date.

  • jefferywhat
    jefferywhat

    When you say good friday and easter sunday, are you referring to the secular calender or the jewish one?

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