Torn between being Gay and the Truth......... (page 5)

faundy

Oh I'm sorry, RealOne, but what on earth does Satonic mean?

Surely if you were here to preach the word of God he would help you spell properly??

Faundy- Out and Proud.

Finally-Free

I'm sure when comparing easter bunnies and santa you found an escape. I don't really see them as the same.

Watchtower teachings are more destructive than those I mentioned, but are every bit as false. The evidence can be found in their own literature. You've been on this site long enough to know that. If you believe in God, why not go to a religion where you will be accepted for who you are?

You only get one shot at this life. Why spend it in misery if you don't have to?

W

ScoobySnax

Listen, thanks for all your replies, I read them all (even real one's!) I have to go to bed now, knackered here. And thanks again, I'll check back agai9n in the morn. Scoob xx

real one

surly you can figure that out if you are so smart..its your father

Aphrodite

Goodnight Scooby.

I just had a thought and its that I think as witnesses we were made to feel that unless we were suffering we were not really doing the right thing. So once we are out it seems really weird that its OK to feel good and happy and comfortable and peaceful. We keep trying unconsciously to put ourselves in a place where we feel unhappy, uncomfortable and "persecuted" because we were taught to believe that was the only way we could be "right".

I know every now and then I have a thought that my life is too good to be true and an impending sense of doom like it can't possibly last and the better things are the worse a thing will happen.

Slowly I am deprogramming from that as terrible things don't happen and actually more and more good things happen to me.

Interestingly since my Mum recently started shunning me I have for the first time realised that I have a place in my community, a place in my 'club', I am a part of the world and really belong. I have awesome friends and I feel protected and embraced.

It was a wonderful sensation to realise that and I then realised I am the center of my universe and everything DOES revolve around me. It is all here for me, for various reasons and I can choose to do what I will with it.

Ask yourself this also, does what you do come from a place of love or from a place of fear. If from love you can never go wrong, if fear then stop, check out how to turn it into love and you'll be fine.

cheers Aphrodite.

JWdaughter

Hi Scooby,

I'm so sad for you that you feel so conflicted about the religion, and you have to compound that with all the conflict that the religion and society put on you for your sexual orientation. I have nothing to say that you haven't heard and read. I wonder if you have spoken to any former JWs who were gay and dealt with it through the congregational channels? Have you done it yourself-to see how they will treat you KNOWING your orientation and that it is not likely to change? I don't know what all you have experienced with the elders and/or cong. already. Do you know what you are in for if you try to do the gay/abstinent thing in the cong? I don't, so I have no encouragement or scare stories to offer you. I wish you well in your struggles and your decision. You are in my heart, and if you are ever in my neck of the woods, you can get cry on my shoulder. I have watched two close friends deal with this in the LDS church-they are kinder than the dubs in many ways , but there is still estrangement and pain in the family, congregation and community.

Take care my friend, and don't let this weigh so heavily on you right now. Not every decision has to be made this instant, and you don't have to give up your soul now to make anyone happy. Just let it be, tell your mom you need some space and you love her and respect her and hope she will let you come to the right decision on your own. I think there is a lot of people pleasing going on-maybe you don't have a heinous congregation, and you hate disappointing folks. I did too! At some point, you are going to disappoint someone. But you are the only one that you will have to live with until the day you die! It would be a shame if the one you disappoint the most is you. So make the right decision for Scooby.

Love,
Shelly

Casper

Aphrodite said :
I know every now and then I have a thought that my life is too good to be true and an impending sense of doom like it can't possibly last and the better things are the worse a thing will happen.
Slowly I am deprogramming from that as terrible things don't happen and actually more and more good things happen to me.

I have this same feeling also. We did live under a constant cloud of doom... In my case, I felt that if I allowed myself to be happy, apart from the organization, then God would come and snatch it all away.

I think it keeps some of us more or less stuck, afraid to be happy. Not sure if you feel this way or not, Scoobysnax, but I know it has affected me on some levels.

Cas

Midget-Sasquatch

I really search with my heart in all things. Everything I am, is always what I was, growing up and listening and trying to do "what was right" always. I know I have been here a long time, and sometimes spouting absolute crap. But I know that I still have this "something" in me, and it's confusing.

The JWs want to make you believe that only they are able to make us better morally. They harp on it. Okay, to some extent some of their teachings do improve people. But it seems to me the teachings that usually bear good results are basics ones even taught by others. The WTS doesn't want you to have this realization. They want to latch onto the innate code in most people and manipulate that for their own ends. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing association with who you are and what stems from them. Keep the good ones (most of those traits have little or nothing to do with the dubs anyways I'd bet). Dump the baseless ones (although its probably hard because alot of that is latched onto emotions like fears, dread and guilt). But if you sort them out and see whats worthwhile to keep and what isn't, it won't be hard for that "something" or hold to eventually disappear.

jgnat

There is no "terrible truth" about my beliefs

That you've wasted a good part of your life agonizing over nothing? There's a terrible truth in that. By the way, I appreciate that you absorbed what I said and took it to heart. I think your ambiguity affects other parts of your life, including your work habits and your relationships.

Learning to take the leap, that would be my big wish for you.

Maybe take up bungee jumping or parasailing or something.

Junction-Guy

ScoobySnax, I too played the "what if " game, but once they revised their generation doctrine in 1995, it became aparent that it was all a lie.

You have been on this board for quite a while, look at the evidence.

just about everything they have taught has turned out to be a lie.

Every prophecy has failed, every one!!!!

The evidence against the WT Society is sky high.

If you can read all of these posts on here, and see how so many lives were ruined by this organization.

If you can read all about the pedophile issue

If you can read about their UN involvement.

If you can compare the NWT with other translations and see where they have purposefully mistranslated.

If you can read certain publications of theirs and see where they blatantly lie.

If you do all of the above things and still think this religion might be the truth, then I don't believe anyone could convince you otherwise, even if Jesus were to come down to earth and tell you.

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