"Such an evil star"

by Yadirf 56 Replies latest jw friends

  • Yadirf
    Yadirf

    Ianao

    The board may note that yadirF, in his usual fashion has ignored a point that dubla has made on this thread pertaining to the topic at hand.

    And what would THAT be?

    You mean this?:

    first off, kudos for responding to detective by answering a question with a question. this is a typical tactic of someone whos argument has not a leg to stand on (very typical tactic of jws).
    Obviously neither he nor you have paid very close attention to the exchanges. If you both had, he wouldn't have stated what he did nor would you be be making the absurd assertions that you have.
    Let's have a clean game fellas.
    This isn't a GAME, you nincompoop. Only people such as you fail to see that it's a serious matter, because if the "star" was in fact of Satanic origin (which it indeed was) then there are multitudes of peoples living today who stand in awe every year at Christmas time paying tribute to something that their enemy Satan used in an attempt to interfere with the salvation of the human race. How stupid can stupid get! Like I said in the letter to the Society, it's comparable to a person kissing the knife that is meant to cut such person's throat.

    Perhaps it would be better for you, Ianao, if you were to return to your slumber. If you happen to wake up with any REAL ideas, then pop back into the picture here.

    Yadirf

    Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.

  • dubla
    dubla

    yadirf-

    Obviously neither he nor you have paid very close attention to the exchanges. If you both had, he wouldn't have stated what he did nor would you be be making the absurd assertions that you have.
    actually ive paid full attention to all the exchanges. none of the exchanges make my statement any less relevant. you answered a question with a question, quite simply becuase you had no proof outside of your personal "reasoning" to answer with.

    aa

  • ianao
    ianao

    yadirF "Puked":

    And what would THAT be?
    You mean this?:
    quote:

    first off, kudos for responding to detective by answering a question with a question. this is a typical tactic of someone whos argument has not a leg to stand on (very typical tactic of jws).

    Obviously neither he nor you have paid very close attention to the exchanges. If you both had, he wouldn't have stated what he did nor would you be be making the absurd assertions that you have.

    No yadirF, this one (you know, the actual point in reference to your "argument"):

    dubla: ...would you like me to quote genesis, the creation of all things? clearly god created the universe, surely you concede that the bible backs this up, no? thus god created all the stars, and placed them where he wished...
    Further yadirF "Jabbed":

    This isn't a GAME, you nincompoop.
    Funny, as I recall you seemed to relish the idea of "playing the game" effectively. Fortunately for you, this quote of yours to this effect is on an old post on this forum that I cannot locate. Therefore, I will refrain from further comment on this...

    yadirF then "Pitched":

    Only people such as you fail to see that it's a serious matter, because if the "star" was in fact of Satanic origin (which it indeed was) then there are multitudes of peoples living today who stand in awe every year at Christmas time paying tribute to something that their enemy Satan used in an attempt to interfere with the salvation of the human race.
    Completely fascinating. Too bad you STILL lack any proof for your assertions beyond your convoluted reasonings (you know, the same ones that some jackass used at one point to invent a holy trinity?) BTW, "Only people such as" me fail to see the seriousness in this matter because "Only people such as" me agree that your idea is completely irrelevant to anyone with one iota of rationale to their name.

    yadirF "ASSked":

    How stupid can stupid get!
    I am sure you will show us all the great potential of stupidity.

    yadirF then "ASSumed":

    Like I said in the letter to the Society, it's comparable to a person kissing the knife that is meant to cut such person's throat.
    Only to those who ascribe to your rather limited view of an ultimate creator. To others who comprehend a loving/caring creator who is NOT on a big ego trip the situation appears quite differently from their point of view. Oh, I'm sorry. I used one of those yucky phrases that you may not like to hear. Sorry about that.

    Finally yadirF "Squawked":

    Perhaps it would be better for you, Ianao, if you were to return to your slumber. If you happen to wake up with any REAL ideas, then pop back into the picture here.
    I wouldn't have to keep going to sleep if you didn't bore me so with this irrelevant self-justification you tend to indulge in.

    BTW...

    Have a nice day.

  • sf
    sf

    "Logic and reason say so."

    You aren't stupid sir, stop ACTING like you are.

    Qoute the exact scripture or shut up already about this topic.

    sKally

  • Yadirf
    Yadirf

    Dubla

    the scriptural wording does seem to imply without a doubt that the star was an actual thing, not the imaginary object you claim it to be.

    No where did you ever catch me saying that I thought the star was an imaginary object. You really haven't got your facts straight. If you had looked the thread over that I recommended you would know better than to assert that I claimed such a thing. To say that the “star” obviously wasn’t a real star like the stars that comprise the galaxies is not to say that it was an “imaginary object”. What is it that makes it so difficult for you to believe that Satan has the capability to produce a mere light. Even puny man can do that. Ever heard of a flashlight? Think: Which do you think it would be more difficult for Satan to accomplish … the feat of causing a light to appear to a group of Magi, or to make a snake speak? Of course I realize that if you happen to be atheistic then such a thought would clearly be out of reason for you. Are you an atheist? Answer that, if you will please … because it is meaningless for me to speak in terms of such things as Satan, etc. if you reject the idea that he actually exists. Understand?

    would god not have also "foreseen the tragedy" of millions of people dying as a result of his creation of satan?

    God didn’t create “Satan”. Where did you ever get such an idea as that? That spirit creature became “Satan” … as a result of his own actions. Well, I can already see that you haven’t any respect for the Bible as having been inspired by God … but I still would like to know whether or not you believe in God. Or are you agnostic? You know MY stand in that regards, so why shouldn’t I know yours?

    Insofar as all the people that have died as a result of Adam choosing to reject God’s directives, if that’s your idea, the blame for our troubles in that regard have to be placed upon Adam’s doorstep, not God’s. It’s just as if your own father contracted a venereal disease, gave it to your mother, and then as you were being born it was somehow passed on to you. Whose fault is that? God’s? No, it was your father’s. Right? Or perhaps you would say: “No, it was God’s, because he should have stepped in to prevent you from having to suffer because of the foolishness of your father.” Sorry, Dubla, if that’s the way you prefer to think, because things don’t work that way. I personally observed a neighbor once, who couldn’t lay off the booze, actually stumble with his little girl in his arms and go down against the cement driveway with her. It scuffed up him and her both pretty bad. Was that a case of God being at fault too … because he didn’t step in and prevent the dad from drinking so much.

    it just seemed phony to me, i have no real basis.
    Nuff said about that then, right? LOL! Better put perhaps, “Too much said!”
    it didnt stand to reason that a person such as yourself would actually take the time to commend the society with a letter of praise on the "star" issue.
    What is so unusual for people to express their appreciation for having been helped with anything, whether it’s food, clothing, financial help, or educational help. I really can’t understand where you’re coming from here. As a matter of fact, although I didn’t disclose it in my post, because I deleted that part, I also included a monetary gift as a further expression of my appreciation for having learned something so special that is not available through any other source. Do you know of any other religious institution that one might learn the same thing from?
    it would make much more sense that you would fabricate such a letter in an obvious attempt at re-hashing an old argument with your friends here on the apostate network. but who knows? and who really cares? lol, maybe you did send the letter to the society, and maybe they got a nice belly laugh out of it.
    “Who really cares?” Why you do of course! Otherwise you wouldn’t have made such a big fuss out of it. Yes, I REALLY did send the letter to the Society, after which I was notified that they received it. But why would you suppose that they got a “nice belly laugh out of it”? You really are full of an endless array of doubts, aren’t you. Is there ever anything positive that happens in your life? Somehow you impress me as being a person that for everything you touch it tends to go haywire, because you are just full of negativism. I hope I’m wrong about that, but you really are quite a pessimist.

    Well, are you an atheist, an agnostic, or what???

    Yadirf

    Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.

  • Yadirf
    Yadirf

    Skally

    You aren't stupid sir, stop ACTING like you are.

    Qoute the exact scripture or shut up already about this topic.

    Why are you inquiring about "the exact scripture" when you have absolutely no respect for the Bible in the first place? Terribly ambivalent on your part! So, I say to you: You are quite unreasonable ma'am, because you keep ACTING like you are.

    Yadirf

    Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.

  • Mommie Dark
    Mommie Dark

    Friday talking about logic and reason is like a hooker pontificating on sexual abstinence.

  • sf
    sf

    Doesn't mean I'm not interested in seeing the scripture as PROOF. Dumbass!

    sKally, non biblical klass ACT

  • Yadirf
    Yadirf

    Now, now Skally. Let's watch the blood pressure and all. You might ought to reserve your strength for when you see your mislead war against the WTS come back on you. Of course, if the WTS isn't really the apple of God's eye then all the *Haman's* of JW.com and H20 have nothing to be worried about now do they. Try to rest, won't you ... you're apt to need it. You know that that really hurt my feelings for you to call me a "dumbass", don't cha? You remind me so very much of Mommie Dark. Are you two siblings by any chance? Sort of a female version os mutt and jeff perhaps? LOL!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Well hello Abommie Mommie (AM), long-time-hear-no-profanity from you. Have you come up with any new, especially filthy words lately? You know what, AM, I almost got hooked on your lingo one time ... and then I got disfellowshipped from JW.com. I kinda got over you in the meantime, so you're gonna have to really shower me with a good dose of the kind of language that only Abommie Mommie can spew out. Seriously though, I am flattered that you would click on a thread that your least-favorite JW started. Shows that it's not easy for you to avoid me, right? LOL! Of course, don't either one of you think that I don't see some good inside your hearts. It's just such a pity though that you will have to be forced to see that you've left the right track. It's never easy for me to stand by and watch anyone make things difficult for themselves.

    Yadirf

    Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.

  • wannahelp
    wannahelp

    Hi Yardif,

    Would you please answer three questions for me:

    1.) Does the bible state literally that the star was sent by satan?

    If you answer YES to this question, please post the EXACT scripture that states this and disregard the following questions.

    2.) Are you or the WTBTS claiming that you received this information of the 'satanic star' via divine revelation?

    If you answer YES to this question, please disregard the following question, but allow me a follow up tract of questions.

    3.) Being that the 'satanic star' is a mere human opinion held by either you or the WTBTS or both, can you be 100% sure that you are correct?

    If so, how..

    If not, then how do you claim rightousness and show humility by passing judgement on all the christian religions that view the star as a good thing?

    Thanks in advance for your answers

    - Wannahelp

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