Is It Me Or Are The Males of Today More Feminine and/or Nerdy Than Ever B4? (page 8)

Nowman

I just want Minimus to know that I love Ryan Seacrest. I thinks he is adorable. Yet, my hubby is cuter, in a "nerdy", "metrosexual", non-macho sort a way.

Nikki

minimus

Well, I'm very pleased for you!

I'm sure you like Brangelina too.

restrangled

Gently Feral responded:

restrangled:
just generally oblivious

And that's why the days of the he-man have been numbered ever since the wimminz invented "consciousness raising" in the 1970's. I don't fall into the "you should know how I feel" trap, but cluelessness is SUCH A TURN-OFF.

JamieBowers:

Maybe I'm just spoiled, but my husband works a lot of overtime and still makes all of the repairs around the house and on our cars as well as yard work. He also does special projects like remodeling, plumbing, electrical wiring, installing new flooring, etc. We don't ever pay someone to work on our house, cars or yard. I've offered to help out with simple things like putting gas in the van or taking out the trash, and he won't hear of it. He said he would be embarrassed to have people see his wife do those sorts of things.

But I don't see any reason why these things are INTRINSICALLY "man's work." A woman, just as much as a man, should be able to do ANYTHING that needs to be done. Why can't you help him install that new floor? Why can't he help you with dinner? WHY CAN'T GROWNUPS WORK TOGETHER? That's my ideal, even though in our household we have a more or less traditional division of labor. Part of it is that I haven't caught up with the jaydub years of stupid gender-role conformity; the rest is that my understanding of three-dimensional space is limited.

Why does this even matter? Well, which class of work has more status in the outside world? Construction? or housework?

You may feel pampered and taken care of – I know I do – but I also feel limited and sometimes even infantilized when my husband tries to "take these burdens off my hands." I know no one person can do everything, but "A man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?" (Robert Browning)

GF: Maybe I used the wrong description...."Oblivious"....what I meant was that men don't "Obsess" with certain things. They take note, move on and get a situation handled one way or another.

As far as men's work,... if my husband has been too overwhelmed with work, I have done the following: Installed a wood floor, replaced plumping fixtures including sinks and faucets, installed a pool pump, under water pool lighting, installed lighting fixtures and ceiling fans. I love a compound miter saw, but can't handle one of those wild regular saws (don't even know the name of it)......a 2 handed operation. I even installed a new car battery, with much fear and trepidation! (had to call over a neighbor guy to connect the cables....I was afraid of it blowing up!

I can wield a chain saw in the yard, lawn mower and trimmer. (Just have trouble pulling the mower line to start sometimes)

I am sure many girls here can do all of the above and more. You are right, grownups should be able work together.

yknot

Minimus I think Brad Paisley wrote you an anthem......

I'm Still a Guy http://www.sendspace.com/file/w1q7g4

When you see a deer, You see Bambi
And I see antlers up on the wall
When you see a lake, You think picnics
And I see a large mouth up under that log
You’re probably thinking that you’re gonna change me
In some ways well, maybe you might
Scrub me down dress me up
But no matter what
Remember I’m still a guy

When you see a priceless French painting
I see a drunk naked girl
You think that riding a wild bull sounds crazy
And I’d like to give it a whirl
Well love makes a man do some things he ain’t proud of
And in a weak moment I might walk your sissy dog
Hold your purse at the mall
But remember I’m still a guy

(Chorus)
And I’ll pour out my heart
Hold your hand in the car
Write a love song that makes you cry
Then turn right around
Knock some jerk to the ground
‘Cause he copped a feel as you walked by

I can hear you now talking to your friends
Saying yeah girls he’s come a long way
From dragging his knuckles and carrying a club
And building a fire in a cave
But when you say a backrub means only a backrub
Then you swat my hand when I try
Well now what can I say at the end of the day
Honey, I’m still a guy

(Chorus)

These days there’s dudes getting facials
Manicured, waxed and botoxed
But with deep spray on tans and creamy lotioney hands
You can’t grip a tackle box
Yea with all of these men lining up to get neutered
It’s hip now to be feminized. But I don’t highlight my hair
I’ve still got a pair
Yeah, honey I’m still a guy

My eyebrows ain’t plucked
Theres a gun in my truck
Oh Thank God I’m still a guy

lonelysheep

Ladies, do you find these metrosexuals all that attractive??

Yes, I do. The goodlooking, lazy priss can only go so far though. Signs of a hard worker are sexy. I am more likely to look at the man who looks a bit grimy, needs a hair wash and shave and looks somewhat unkept.

minimus

Lonelysheep, I just knew that about you!

yknot, cute song. Still, I don't think a guy should imitate a caveman either.

Nowman

Yes, I like Brangelina too.

VoidEater

The media is more recognizing of the variance out there.

It's not a one-size-fits-all world for men, nor those that like men.

serendipity

"To me, manliness means being wise, self-sufficient, healthy, emotionally secure, courteous. " Men don't have a monopoly on those traits. I'd associate these with being an adult.

dawg

A "real man" is someone with testicles and a penis... period!

And no man should ever worry they don't fit into someone's idea of manhood... listen guys, never worry whether either Sweetstuff, not FHN, nor any lady thinks they're hot (sorry ladies but there's a point to this)...Don't give even one thought if someone don't think you're manly male nor female... like the old song says "Somewhere there's a someone for everyone"...and like the old saying about opinions

All you need to know, is who you are. YOU ARE! Not what someone thinks you should be.

I've seen the most effeminate men, hell even gay men for that matter buck up and kick some a$$... they sure looked like "real men" while doing it... I've seen men stand up to rooms full of people and not back down, and they were mild and meek normally.

A real man is a man that knows who HE freaking is, and lives by it... that's a damn man, that and testicles and a penis.

Is It Me Or Are The Males of Today More Feminine and/or Nerdy Than Ever B4?

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