Information on Sanger's Negro Project.
http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/02/28/planned-parenthood-the-negro-project-ii/
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So Far, How Do You Think President Obama's Doing?
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beksbks
Wow, so you are saying that this woman of the Nineteenth Century had like really backward ideas? Amazing.
Now, what does that have to do with anything in the above posts??
PS, I believe Obama himself clarified his vote, referenced on this site many times before the election. Oh on a conservative blog too as I recall.
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StAnn
Hamilcarr, as you stated, the great Obama has approved more health care for low-income children while he and Nancy Pelosi fight to ensure that low-income children aren't born in the first place. What you have to understand about people like Obama and Pelosi is that they love having the "lower classes" on entitlements because it keeps them lower class. For instance, if your children are on Medicaid and you get a promotion at work, you can make too much money to keep your kids on Medicaid BUT you won't make enough money to pay the co-pays for their medical care. So, if you have a child with a disability or a chronic illness, you decline the promotion because you simply can't afford to lose the Medicaid. And you stay poor so your child can get health care. And people like Obama get to feel good about themselves because they are throwing crumbs to the poor to keep them from sinking, but they are just barely keeping them afloat. They get to make sure that there will always be a group of people who can do nothing more than make hamburgers, wait tables, and sweep floors because they can't afford to get just above the poverty level or they will lose their "entitlements." It's about power and control and being able to force people to live the way you want them to live.
Don't mistake Obama's actions for altruism. It's actually class warfare.
StAnn
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StAnn
Beks, I'll respond to one thing at a time.
Re: the UN Population Fund, you may not know that "reproductive rights" is a sneaky term for abortion. Please read the following:
"January 29, 2009On January 24, President Obama said, “I look forward to working with Congress to restore U.S. financial support for the U.N. Population Fund.” He pledged to do this “in the coming weeks,” maintaining that “It is time that we end the politicization of this [abortion] issue.”
Bill Donohue explains the Catholic League’s response:
“The United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) claims that it is not pro-abortion. It says that it merely supports ‘reproductive rights.’ Not quite. Starting in 1979, in the first five years of China’s draconian one-child policy, UNFPA gave the program $50 million. To accomplish this goal over the years, which is still ongoing, IUDs have been forced into the wombs of hundreds of millions of women against their will. Indeed, no coercive method is considered taboo, including forced abortion. It was for reasons like these that in 2002 the U.S. State Department blasted China for its affront to human rights. Indeed, Secretary Colin Powell backed the Bush administration’s denial of funds to UNFPA.
“The one-child policy has abetted female infanticide, so much so that there has been a massive decrease in the female population—there are now an estimated 350 million girls missing from China. Other non-white areas of the world where UNFPA concentrates its efforts include Vietnam, Nigeria and Peru. But it can be multicultural: When the genocidal maniac from Serbia, Slobodan Milosevic, wanted to tame his people, he invited UNFPA to help reduce the population of Kosovo; he wasn’t unhappy with the results, nor, of course, the means.
“So here we have it. In the name of women’s rights, UNFPA undercuts women. In the name of eradicating poverty, it eradicates the poor. Moreover, it works closely with anti-Catholic groups. And now Obama wants us to bankroll UNFPA. During a recession, no less. To top things off, he is doing all of this in the name of ending the politicization of issues that he says marked previous administrations. The ironies are as endless as they are priceless.”
http://www.catholicleague.com/release.php?id=1545
StAnn
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StAnn
Beks, I'm quite clear on the meaning of the term genocide. Obama is trying to deliberately eliminate members of a socio-economic group from the face of the Earth: trying to ensure poor people aren't born. What is it if not genocide?
StAnn
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StAnn
Beks said:
"Wow, so you are saying that this woman of the Nineteenth Century had like really backward ideas? Amazing.
Now, what does that have to do with anything in the above posts??"
Beks, Margaret Sanger was not a "woman of the Nineteenth Century" with really backward ideas. She lived and worked primarily in the 20th century and her works are the foundation of the abortion/contraception movement that is so commonly accepted today. Her "really backward ideas" completely inform politicians like Obama and Pelosi, which is evidenced by Obama's close ties to Planned Parenthood, the organization that Margaret Sanger founded.
Re: Obama's BAIPA vote, he explained his stand all right. He lied. He invented terms like "pre-viable fetus" for a baby outside of the womb, which is no longer a fetus, which is alive, which means it is viable, and bent over backwards to make sure that these babies were killed. Here's an article from the National Review for you to look at about this issue:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ODA2YzVmYjFmZDRhZjRlY2IzNDdmZGU1Y2MyNDk1YmM=
Deniers for Obama Abortions do sometimes produce live births.
By Mona CharenA ppearing on C-SPAN last weekend I mentioned that Barack Obama had opposed the Born Alive Infants Protection Act when he was an Illinois state senator — a position he has attempted to deny or obfuscate ever since. The liberal blogger who appeared on the program with me erupted with indignation. She didn’t deny that Obama had opposed the bill. She denied, hotly, that babies are ever born alive after an attempted abortion. Since I have actually met Gianna Jessen, who survived an attempted abortion, I invited viewers to contact me directly if they wanted evidence. My inbox has been bursting.
The denial goes very deep. Any number of e-mailers expressed their contemptuous certainty that “born alive” infants were an invention of pro-life activists. OK, enter “abortion survivors” into your browser and see what you get. Or, if you prefer a traditional media source, consult the Daily Mail in Britain. The Mail has reported that in just the past year 66 infants had been left to die after abortions in Great Britain.
When Congress was considering the Born Alive Infants Protection Act (BAIPA), a subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee heard testimony from Jill Stanek and Allison Baker, two nurses at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Ill. They described several instances in which babies who were moving and breathing after induced abortions were left to die. The committee report quoted Jill Stanek: “Mrs. Stanek testified about another aborted baby who was thought to have had spina bifida, but was delivered with an intact spine. On another occasion, an aborted baby was left to die on the counter of the Utility Room wrapped in a disposable towel.” The committee report also quoted Shelly Lowe, a lab technician at Bethesda North Medical Center in Cincinnati. A young woman who had undergone just the first cervix-opening phase of a partial-birth abortion gave birth in the emergency room. The doctor placed the 22-week-old baby in a specimen dish to be taken to the lab. According to the report, when Ms. Lowe “saw the baby girl in the dish she was stunned when she saw the girl gasping for air. ‘I don’t think I can do that,’ Ms. Lowe reportedly said. ‘This baby is alive.’” Lowe asked permission to hold the baby until she died. She wrapped the child she dubbed “Baby Hope” in a blanket and sang to her. Breathing room air without any other supports, Baby Hope lived for three hours.
I’ve received a number of letters from viewers. This one caught my eye: “I am a pediatrician. When I was a pediatric resident on a neonatal intensive care rotation, we were routinely called to … resuscitate infants. In one instance I was called to pronounce a baby dead who had been born an hour earlier after a failed abortion. We were not called to resuscitate the baby immediately after the delivery as the intent was abortion. … I write to attest that babies are sometimes born alive after abortion and then put aside to die.”
The BAIPA was designed to ensure that in those rare cases in which a baby marked for abortion happens to survive — that the child will be immediately accorded full human and constitutional rights. The measure passed the U.S. House by a vote 380 to 15 but was blocked in the Senate. When a “neutrality clause” was inserted to the effect that the law should not be construed to limit the scope of Roe v. Wade, the measure was passed by unanimous consent and signed into law in 2002.
At the time, Barack Obama was an Illinois state senator. An almost exact copy of the federal bill was introduced in 2001. Obama opposed it, saying, “I mean it, it would essentially bar abortions because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an antiabortion statute.” Even though the baby would be completely separated from the mother. In 2003, the Illinois legislature added a neutrality clause to the bill, making it a virtual clone of the federal legislation. As chairman of the committee considering the bill, Obama again opposed it, saying, “… an additional doctor who then has to be called in an emergency situation and make these assessments is really designed simply to burden the original decision of the woman …”
Barack Obama is a charming and intelligent man. But there is no other way to interpret his position on BAIPA than this: A woman who chooses an abortion is entitled to a dead child no matter what. That is an abortion extremist." StAnn -
StAnn
Beks, regarding the Pork in the Stimulus bill, I will wait until the final version comes out because a few of the items I would like may have been cut, although I doubt it. However, what do you think the States are going to do with the billions of dollars sent to them from this package? I worked for state government (North Carolina) for years. I'm not naive.
StAnn
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StAnn
Beks, no offense meant, but I take it you are a younger woman, not yet jaded by life?
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beksbks
Ann, I have no interest in anything that the Catholic League has to say, sorry.
trying to ensure poor people aren't born.
Actually, no. Wealthy women have always been able to arrange for an abortion. I think it's rather telling that you and yours assume that the only women that need abortions, are the poor. They just happen to be the only women who need HELP.
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beksbks
Beks, no offense meant, but I take it you are a younger woman, not yet jaded by life?
StAnn
Uhhhhhhh no. Just intelligent, informed, and with a heart intact.