May 15th WT- " Wife's Dedication to Jehovah more Important than Marriage " (page 6)

flipper

ISAAC AUSTIN- Very true, I agree. The evil is that the witnesses show loyalty to a counterfeit mind control cult instead of their marriage mates and families

oompa

ya...i have been totally flucked twice now.......and there may not be a third.......oomps

flipper

OOMPA- Sorry to hear you are being screwed 2 times backwards . It must hurt double, definitely

restrangled

I'm sorry, I just have to comment here after being exposed to the various ideas of who is in charge in the bedroom, wives, etc. and who is not according to the Watchtower boys through the years.

It all makes me sick, they were all Neanderthalls and continue to be. Nothing has changed.

r.

RESTRANGLED- No apologies necessary sis ! I agree with you. The WT societies top boys ARE Neanderthal's. Not only THAT- they are very pervie constantly wanting to control and know what each witness does in their bedrooms as married couples. It's as if they wanted people to turn time in on their sex lives . If that was the case when I was married 19 years to a witness woman my report would indicate I was an inactive publisher ! LOL

restrangled

Hey Flipper...you got that right!

As a young girl I watched, women get beat to hell, and have the elders ask "what did you do to tick him off", I watched my own parents miserable beyond belief with the presiding overseer in our own living room trying to do couples counciling before the elder arangement ever transpired.

After that my dad was made an elder, and I heard more miserable, couple counciling, especially when the big.....oral sex was a no no... and ofcourse everyone was doing it.

So many married couples were guilted into confessing at the time.... many wound up on public reproof or disfellowshipped for the same....

The 1970's and before were just about the ugliest time in JW history......but of course.....most of that has been erased in thier history books.

r.

restrangled

Let me add one more note to this....the guys in charge at the time were probably in their mid 60's.....most of the elders now are gone or in full demntia, but the big shots are still pulling the strings in thier 80's and some close to 100.....how scarey is that. The big boys protected, cared for and lived lives not in this world, are still calling the shots.

Some are probably drooling spit, as they make decisions for lives of millions.

r.

still_in74

Believe it or not she will actually think this article was witten just at the right moment to help her decide who to choose, me or God.. WT.

oh that always amazes me when dubs say that. its so true! The WTS has trained dubs to think that way, after all - thats how Jehovah helps them and answers their prayers, through the WTS !

truthsetsonefree

One thing that one realizes over time is that the WT is very good at this form of double-speak. Today they say "take care of your wife; she's very important". Tomorrow, they'll say "christian elders, are you taking care of God's flock as Jesus would?".

And at any time, they can refer back to any of those statements to fit the moment. They can never be wrong.

That about sums it up. Even though I'm divorced and my ex knows that so many of our problems can be traced to this mindset she continues on in this cult. The taking each other to the elders was a part of my life for almost thirty years, beginning with my Mom and ending with my ex-wife. As mentioned already, these unbalanced men many of whom don't like sex (gee what guy doesn't want sex?!) have no authority to be telling anyone anything about marriage.

Isaac Carmignani

still_in74

w04 12/15 p. 10 Friends of God in the “Friendly Islands” (family needs take precedance)

Although poor materially, this man and his wife used to make a sizable financial contribution when their names were called out at church during an annual fund-raising service. A Witness who had previously visited had invited the husband to open his Bible and read 1 Timothy 5:8. The apostle Paul wrote: “If anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith.” This Bible principle touched the husband’s heart. He realized that by acceding to the church’s excessive demands, he was failing to provide the basic needs of his family. At the next annual collection service, although he had the money in his pocket, he could not forget 1 Timothy 5:8. When his name was called out, he courageously informed the priest that his family’s needs took precedence. As a result, the couple was publicly belittled and berated by the church elders.

*** lv pp. 220-221 The Bible’s View on Divorce and Separation (Gods Love Book) (ditch the family and serve the WTS) In certain extreme situations, some Christians have decided to separate from or divorce a marriage mate even though that one has not committed fornication. In such a case, the Bible stipulates that the departing one “remain unmarried or else make up again.” (1 Corinthians 7:11) Such a Christian is not free to pursue a third party with a view to remarriage. (Matthew 5:32) Consider here a few exceptional situations that some have viewed as a basis for separation. (oh thats not a hint to R&F that cling to every word the WTS says)

Willful nonsupport. A family may become destitute, lacking the basic essentials of life, because the husband fails to provide for them, although being able to do so. The Bible states: “If anyone does not provide for . . . members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith.” (1 Timothy 5:8) If such a man refuses to change his ways, the wife would have to decide whether she needs to protect her welfare and that of her children by obtaining a legal separation. Of course, Christian elders should give careful consideration to an accusation that a Christian refuses to support his family. Refusal to care for one’s family may result in disfellowshipping.

Extreme physical abuse. An abusive spouse may act so violently that the abused mate’s health and even life are in danger. If the abusive spouse is a Christian, congregation elders should investigate the charges. Fits of anger and a practice of violent behavior are grounds for disfellowshipping.—Galatians 5:19-21.

Absolute endangerment of spiritual life. A spouse may constantly try to make it impossible for the mate to pursue true worship or may even try to force that mate to break God’s (WTS) commands in some way. In such a case, the threatened mate would have to decide whether the only way to “obey God as ruler rather than men” is to obtain a legal separation.

*** w07 5/1 p. 21 par. 9 Do Not Put Apart What God Has Yoked Together ***But having weighty congregation responsibilities does not mean that a husband should neglect fulfilling his God-given obligations as a family head. (1 Timothy 3:5, 12) Commenting on this matter, some years ago this journal made the following statement: “In accordance with Biblical requirements, it can be said that ‘shepherding begins at home.’ If an elder neglects his family, he could jeopardize his appointment.” Clearly, it is imperative that you provide for your wife—physically, emotionally and, most important of all, spiritually.

May 15th WT- " Wife's Dedication to Jehovah more Important than Marriage "

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