70 years = 607? (page 18)

In the year after their coming to the house of God in Jerusalem, in the second month, Zerubbabel, son of Shealtiel, and Jeshua, son of Jozadak, together with the rest of their brethren, the priests and Levites and all who had come from the captivity to Jerusalem, began by appointing the Levites twenty years of age and over to supervise the work on the house of the LORD.

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Jeshua and his sons and brethren, with Kadmiel and Binnui, son of Henadad, and their sons and their brethren, the Levites, stood as one man to supervise those who were engaged in the work on the house of God.

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When the builders had laid the foundation of the LORD'S temple, the vested priests with the trumpets and the Levites, sons of Asaph, were stationed there with the cymbals to praise the LORD in the manner laid down by David, king of Israel.

Your buddy Josephus:

Against Apion I,21: These accounts agree with the true histories in our books; for in them it is written that Nebuchadnezzar, in the eighteenth year of his reign, laid our temple desolate, and so it lay in that state of obscurity for fifty years; but that in the second year of the reign of Cyrus its foundations were laid, and it was finished again in the second year of Darius.

Temple foundations laid in Cyrus 2nd yr/2nd month...per Ezra 3:8 the Jews returned the year before. Cyrus 2nd year began Nisan 537BC. Cyrus 1st yr was 538BC. Not rocket science here.

bennyk

"scholar" writes:

Your mischevious misuse of the quote from a 1913 WT does you no credit but at least simply proves that those early Bible Students acted with integrity and that is something lacking with apostates and a a quality that you would do well to imitate.

It may be "mischevious", but I fail to understand how it was a "misuse." I simply took Russell at his word... Please explain how promulgating false prophecies in millions of copies for decades, and then lying about it is 'acting with integrity.'

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bennyk

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Your misuse of the WT quote was mischevious because you failed to recognize the honest and modest way in which it was presented. Those Bible Students acted in sincerity showing faith in the Scriptures and heeded the Lord's commands and you have not recognized that they had and continue wak in integrity. That is a challenge for you.

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AnnOMaly

Your misuse of the WT quote was mischevious because you failed to recognize the honest and modest way in which it was presented. Those Bible Students acted in sincerity showing faith in the Scriptures and heeded the Lord's commands and you have not recognized that they had and continue wak in integrity. That is a challenge for you.

The 1913 quote said if the events they predicted didn't come to pass, the chronology would be proved wrong. The events didn't come to pass, so by their own mouths, the chronology was proved wrong. That's the point - irrespective of how honest, modest and sincere they might have been at the time.

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isaac austin

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Those texts in Daniel 4 explicitly relate to God's Kingdom which you choose to ignore only seeing what you want to see. In fact the entire book of Daniel is about the Kingdom as shown by the frequency of the term far more than any other book in the OT.

The Aramaic word iddanim means 'appointed times' or 'time periods' as shiown by the footnote in the NWT Reference Bible, 1984, p.1097 and this is the literal meaning of this word as shown by the footnote 29 on page 210 in the Bible commentary series Heremeneia, Daniel, by John Collins, 1993, Fortress Press.

The cataclysmic events after 1914 certainly proved that the Gentile Times had ended by October, 1914 thus vindicating those courageous Bible Students and is equally attested by those prominent clergman who in London, England published a Manifesto whic proclaimed the fact that the Gentille Times had expired by their determination in 1917.

Those 'ridiculous stream of false prophecies' as you put were part of the interpretation of Bible prophecy which proved that those loyal Witnesses were watchful as the Lord commanded and proclaimed the significance of those prophecies as part of the Gospel message so we can be proud of all that has been accomplished in carrying out the Lord's will. What then are you doing is more to the question? What Gospel are you preaching?

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isaac austin

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It is you that is blind and dumb.

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Mr Majestic

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Don't you trouble yourself about scholar.

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Mary

scholar said: Those Bible Students acted in sincerity showing faith in the Scriptures and heeded the Lord's commands

According to your own belief system 'scholar', sincerity doesnt' mean squat to Jehovah:

"No matter how sincere a person may be, presumptuousness and disobedience never win God's favor."---December 15, 1983 Watchtower pg 6

"Hence, the courageous course is being adopted not in sincerity alone, but on the basis of reliable information, correct knowledge. And this under trustworthy guidance, better than the guidance of "valueless gods." The correctness of the course is proved by the fact that it was foretold in a prophecy that has turned out to be no lie but the truth."----Watchtower December 15, 1972 p. 742 par. 5

"...In the all-important matter of worshiping God, it is likewise true that sincerity alone does not guarantee that God is pleased with our worship. We may conscientiously believe we are doing well in this regard, yet we may be deluding ourselves."----Watchtower January 1, 1964 p. 4 Will Sincerity Alone Please God?

"Since the Bible was completed and "inspiration" is no longer necessary, a true prophet is one who is faithfully proclaiming what is written in the Bible.......It matters not whether he proclaims his message with deliberate, willful and malicious intent to deceive, or whether he is the blinded and deluded dupe of Satan and hence unwittingly used of him. In either case, he is a false prophet and hence the agent of Satan".-----Watchtower May 15, 1930, p 154

"...Merely sincerely accepting and following a religious organization will not guarantee God's approval and protection through this world's end. Sincerity, conviction, or intensity of devotion will not change falsehood into truth..."----Watchtower October 15, 1960 pp. 614-615

"...sincerity alone does not purify someone of wrong teachings..."---Awake! February 2006 p. 13

"A religion that teaches lies cannot be true."-----Watchtower 1991 December 1, p. 7

Looks like your back to square one 'scholar'.

70 years = 607?

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