"Remember, nobody can REALLY love you unless they know and love Jehovah first."

by AllTimeJeff 148 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    How many JWs actually, REALLY know Jehovah? Just 'cause they say so?! Didn't he turn his back on the lot of us?

    I would think that love is really from Jesus if you go by the Bible. Jehovah seems to be all over the map... "I loves you but I will KILL you if you piss me off! Oh wait... I already did that. You just have to wait 70 plus years to die. Bwwwaahhhhaaahhaaaahhh!"

  • Spike Tassel
    Spike Tassel

    Jehovah didn't turn his back, some of his reps may have, though.

    Were they working with all of Jehovah's views about us? No, only the ones that were "red flags" in the reps minds.

    "Discipline" is still a very misunderstood concept, it would seem. It's actually not about punishment at all, it's about "making disciples".

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    Jehovah didn't turn his back

    I was taught that he did as a child by my studying JW mother. Was there new light on this since the 60s/70s?

  • Spike Tassel
    Spike Tassel

    Jehovah always knows what we're up to, so he hasn't turned his back. On the other hand, if we've turned our back on Jehovah, then we can't see the new light. Once we return to the light, we see what it is, and are no longer in the dark.

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    Jehovah always knows what we're up to

    How? Give me proof.

  • Spike Tassel
    Spike Tassel

    He's the Creator. All of the creation is a result of His energy. Th Bible says something like: even if we tried to hide in the ocean, Jehovah would see us there; and if we tried to escape Him by going into space, He'd see that, too.

  • NewYork44M
    NewYork44M

    Jehovah always knows what we're up to

    How? Give me proof.

    You are mixing jehovah up with Santa Claus. Santa know when we are sleeping, when we are good and when we are bad. god, not so much interested in our day to day lives.

  • Spike Tassel
    Spike Tassel

    Real JWs have a variety of proof they can give you, in the way of Bible-based publications which address all of your concerns if you but take the time, with an open mind.

  • AllTimeJeff
    AllTimeJeff

    WHO CRAPPED IN MY YARD!?????

    Real JWs have a variety of proof they can give you, in the way of Bible-based publications which address all of your concerns if you but take the time, with an open mind.

    (1 Corinthians 13:1-13) If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels but do not have love, I have become a sounding [piece of] brass or a clashing cymbal. 2 And if I have the gift of prophesying and am acquainted with all the sacred secrets and all knowledge, and if I have all the faith so as to transplant mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 And if I give all my belongings to feed others, and if I hand over my body, that I may boast, but do not have love, I am not profited at all. 4 Love is long-suffering and kind. Love is not jealous, it does not brag, does not get puffed up, 5 does not behave indecently, does not look for its own interests, does not become provoked. It does not keep account of the injury. 6 It does not rejoice over unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth. 7 It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. 8 Love never fails. But whether there are [gifts of] prophesying, they will be done away with; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will be done away with.

  • Spike Tassel
    Spike Tassel

    So,

    Remember, nobody can REALLY love you unless they know and love Jehovah first.

    ATJ just backed it up for one and all to see . Amen, Amen.

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