Climate Change The New Catalyst For Globalists/Communist Utopia

by Perry 372 Replies latest members politics

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    The EPA is next! Fantastic.

    "I cannot think of any instance where the EPA depended so heavily on non-EPA synthesis reports to justify proposed regulatory action in their almost 39 years of existence. As a result of this EPA decision, the EPA’s fortunes in regard to regulating GHGs are directly tied to the fate of the IPCC reports."

    President Eisenhower warned us of the military-industrial complex. He speaks again from the past to warn us:

    “…the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

    The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.

    Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”

    I wonder if this admonition from Eisenhower – uttered a few moments after he warned of the influence of the Military-Industrial complex — will be repeated among the Left with the same grave sense of somber warning as his previous few sentences?

  • besty
    besty

    And the confirming correlation between the CRU data and the completely separate and independent data from NOAA and NASA?

    What accusations are you leveling at these American agencies?

    And the visual evidence of sea-level rise, glacial retreat, iceshelf melt, vast swathes of American wild forest dying - are they all in on the conspiracy as well?

    https://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2009/nov/homepagenews/CRUupdate

    "Recently thousands of files and emails illegally obtained from a research server at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have been posted on various sites on the web. The emails relate to messages received or sent by the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) over the period 1996-2009.

    A selection of these emails have been taken out of context and misinterpreted as evidence that CRU has manipulated climate data to present an unrealistic picture of global warming.

    This conclusion is entirely unfounded and the evidence from CRU research is entirely consistent with independent evidence assembled by various research groups around the world.

    There is excellent agreement on the course of temperature change since 1881 between the data set that we contribute to (HadCRUT3) and two other, independent analyses of worldwide temperature measurements. There are no statistically significant differences between the warming trends in the three series since the start of the 20th century.

    The three independent global temperature data series have been assembled by:

    • CRU and the Met Office Hadley Centre (HadCRUT3) in the UK.
    • The National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) in Asheville, NC, USA.
    • The Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS), part of the National Aeronautic and Space Administration (NASA) in New York.

    The warming shown by the HadCRUT3 series between the averages of the two periods (1850-99 and 2001-2005) was 0.76±0.19°C, and this is corroborated by the other two data sets."

  • besty
    besty

    @ B-Rock - loving your writing style and incisive wit - you have a real talent. Your post is really great. The way you managed to seamlessly incorporate pimps, butt-rape, massage, exclamation points, question marks and capital letters is truly compelling. And pictures from the Internet too. You should consider sending some of your work for publication somewhere.

  • Priest73
    Priest73

    You guys need a better hobby. Might I suggest debating other myths such as Big Foot, The Tooth Fairy or Jesus?

    Or philatelics?

  • villabolo
    villabolo

    JWoods:

    "Let me pose a question: WHY is it that almost every poster here who is well known to be far-left on almost any political topic is a great believer in global warming and a great supporter of cap and tax?"

    Let post an answer. Why are most posters who are known to be right of center in most political topics anti-Global Warming?

    Also, why do you assume that those who believe in Global Warming are supporters of "cap and tax"? If you actually read what far left environmentalists write you will find near unanimous opposition to cap and trade? That includes me whom you would put in a so called "far left" position.

    What's more I do not believe in redistribution of wealth, especially with corrupt third world countries. I do believe in aiding other countries by giving the people food relief and later, when we develop anti global warming technology contributing some of the products thereof and better yet some factories to produce things like electric bicycle cars, solar ovens, etc..

    You further said:

    "We cannot reduce it. Cars will still have to be driven, coal and natural gas electrical plants will still have to run, ships still have to sail the deep blue sea, cows chickens and pigs will still breathe and fart, and so on."

    You simply have no imagination and you are also apparently ignorant of other issues like peak oil which will lower your polluting consumption whether you like it or not.

    The reason I say you have no imagination is because you speak of cars, ships and electric power plants in their present state as if they were the last word in transportation and power generating technology. In actuality they are ill designed, grossly inefficient ways of carrying out their intended purpose. The only reason we still have these dinosaurian contraptions is because we have had, until recently, a seemingly unending "abundance" of oil. Are you familiar with the Peak Oil issue? Or is that another "Socialist Conspiracy"? Your statement "We cannot reduce it" is a pompous affront to the reality of nature. You'll have no other choice but to reduce and eliminate its use.

    This whole civilization needs to be redesigned from the ground up. Communities designed like Arcosanti, self reliant villages of several hundred people who are within a five minute walk of living quarters, work place and, most important of all, gardens (or greenhouses) sufficiently large to feed several times the population.

    Transportation between communities will be accomplished with four wheel bicycle cars (www.rhoadescar.com) at first, then with dune buggy style vehicles redesigned for road use and collision safety.

    I thought it was hilarious that you said, ". . . ships still have to sail the deep blue sea, . . ."and said that in the context of inevitable petroleum consumption. Before you change your mind on that one, sailing will be good enough for me. With modern computer designed sails and photovoltaic panels a ship, while not matching speeds of liquid fueled ships, will still do a very decent job of sailing what used to be the blue seas.

    villabolo

  • JWoods
    JWoods

    I'm sorry - but I just don't buy into the idea that almost all far-left enviro nuts are ANTI cap and trade. This makes no sense.

    Don't see why SAIL is so silly - even on nuclear submarines, they still call the men sailors, don't they?

  • kurtbethel
    kurtbethel

    Ozone hole - Y2K - Fear - Famine - Global warming - Panic - Pestilence - Extinction - Pole shift - Armageddon - Ice age - 2012 - BOO!

  • B-Rock
    B-Rock

    Besty, the CRU's digging in notwithstanding, ClimateGate is spreading to other institutions:

    Queen's University Belfast.

    State University of New York.

    NASA is getting sued.

    Michael "Hockey Stick" Mann is being investigated.

    The top "climatologists" involved are a very small group. They are in different institutions. They know each other. They have acted to prevent research contrary to their views from getting published.

  • besty
    besty
    even on nuclear submarines, they still call the men sailors, don't they?

    JWoods - despite completely ignoring the susbtance and detail of Villabolo's post you still manage to f**k up the one thing you comment on.

    The word you are looking for is submariner.

  • Ri
    Ri

    I DO believe we are living in a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT today...They don't quite have control over the people who can think for themselves...but in another decade it will be total control....The devil is in the pudding no matter who the President will be.

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