Would you NOT hire a JW because they're a JW?

by Open mind 53 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • garyneal
    garyneal

    Wow, this is hardly the kind of talk you hear at the meetings, assemblies, and in WT literature concerning JW employees. They always give the impression that JW employees are highly prized by their bosses for having such an excellent work ethic.

    Personally, I think hiring anyone who does not have a firm grasp on how the world works is a bad idea. I can understand witnesses who work for other witnesses for less than what they would expect from a 'worldly' employer. After all, the whole point of networking is to establish a social circle of friends who would 'scratch your back for scratching theirs.' However, this is not unique to Jehovah's Witnesses and there is the ultimate issue of the fact that 'you got to eat.'

    My wife has been considering letting a 'sister' in the congregation baby sit our newest child that she is expecting. I cannot be too opposed to that since she and I both trust a Lutheran woman who occasionally watches our daughter and was her teacher in the infant room. However, I will be looking for signs of 'indoctrination' and will insist the she cease and desist if I spot any. That said, if we do end up using this woman, I think it will only be long enough until my daughter starts going to public school (which is about a year). That way, we are only paying daycare expenses at a center for only one child at a time. Personally, I prefer daycare centers to at home daycares run by a single or a handful of babysitters.

  • Heartofaboy
    Heartofaboy

    Though I'm not so committed to the JW cause now, in the past I always felt the pressure not to bring reproach on Jehovah's name & his organisation & be a model employee.

    I am conscientious anyway in everything I do & a bit of a perfectionist because of the line of work I'm in, so not all JW's make bad empoloyees.

    However my parents have been stung by a 'brother' who claimed to be a competent plumber...........he wasn't!

    But it takes all sorts to make world

  • nelly136
    nelly136

    nannycam is a quick and effective way of making sure childminders are good with your kids while youre backs turned, and thats regardless of any religion,

    i covered for a pioneer for her cleaning job many moons ago, apparently getting the job done thoroughly in under half the time she could hang it out and claim wages for was not the done thing.

    as for working for a dub,some of the men in our cong ended up being ripped off by one of the elders and one of the men ripped off was a fellow elder, so i guess wearing an elder badge doesnt mean theyre immune, of course taking another 'brother' to court is a nono so they just had to suck it up and take the loss.

  • Open mind
    Open mind

    There are a couple of self-employed JWs whose services I still occasionally use. They are NOT cheap, but do a very good job.

    There is one very competent JW who I won't be hiring anymore. He's a computer guru. I wouldn't let him near my Aposta-PCs with a ten foot barge pole now! I'm sure he would feel compelled to tell the elders if he found apostate files lurking on my hard drive.

    Holidays are a mixed bag if you're an employer. If you have a mix of JWs and non-JWs it can be a good thing. The non-JWs can cover the JW "holidays" (Assemblies, Conventions & Memorial) and the JWs can cover the "pagan, worldly" holidays. I've seen this actually work well.

    Gotta go for now.

    Thanks for all the replies.

    om

  • DaCheech
    DaCheech

    in the future I might hire a housekeeper, I'm gonna have to screen the JW's out......... never will I have one in my home alone!

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    hmmmmm I think that if I was interviewing a person and they disclosed they were a JW I would have to make some inquiries regarding a few things:

    1. if required would they miss meetings to get a important job done (like any other employee)
    2. would they be willing to join in on all in-office social norms (including parties, decorating, greeting customers during holidays, etc.)
    3. would they agree to not witness to other employees or customers
    4. would they refrain from shunning other employees or customers if they knew they were no longer a JW
    5. I would make it very clear that bringing their religion into the office is inappropriate - others don't do it so neither should they. If I make it a rule across the board then they can't claim religious intolerance or prejudice.
    6. I would also make it clear that my present employees are an exceptional and trust-worthy group and they would have to work hard to meet their standards. (lol nothing like a little prodding to make them actually work)

    If they could agree to all that then I might hire them but I would be keeping a close eye on them and they would be getting regular assessments along the way. I suspect that the first 4 would have them running out the door

  • shamus100
    shamus100

    I would NEVER hire a JW. Unabashedly, resoundingly, NO!

    From what I've seen, they are the worst workers I have ever seen. I reserve the right to globally label them on this one. After all, it's my money.

    NO WAY!

  • dissed
    dissed

    When we used to have the retail store and service business, we hired many a JW. We found them similar to non-JW's, and nothing special. They lied, missed work, and stole like anyone else.

    But, on the worse side, some would gossip about you in the congregation.

    A good JW story:

    We caught two playing games with the time clock. Both were Pioneers, but thought nothing of punching in for the other when missing, and stealing time hours from us. Sometimes for an entire day. When caught, they rationalized the theft saying we deserved the treatment because we were not going to the meetings anymore. ....Uh???

    Twice JW's 'borrowed' a company truck without asking on the weekend. We found out on one, because they got a ticket for speeding and our current tags were not posted on the plate.(200 miles away) The other, we happened to go by our yard on a Sunday, and seeing the truck gone, we called the police and reported it stolen.

  • Open mind
    Open mind

    Lady Lee, those were some excellent pre-employment questions.

    Dissed, I think the JW sense of entitlement probably gets intensified if they're working for an inactive JW.

    Here's a reason for any true-believing JW not to hire a JW contractor if they think there's ANY possibility of things going wrong. The true-believing JW isn't allowed to sue the fellow JW contractor without getting heat from the Elders.

    om

  • MMXIV
    MMXIV

    I was recommended for a job by another JW I had only met once. Within three months of starting the Jewish owners gave me the largest pay rise in the entire company. That's when I first realised I was a hard working and competent employee, not because I was a JW, but because those jobs were way below my level.

    Before that I recommended an elders wife to work part time in my first job. She was a nightmare. The staff were joking around once and I referred to a leprechaun. I got in real trouble for "mentioning" that word.

    In fact it's all coming back to me know. All hell broke loose when I bought a birthday card. The guy who ran the shop was 80 years old - so I always went out to buy stuff like milk and newspapers. One day he asked me to get a birthday card along with the paper. He wasn't doing it as a test even though he knew my beliefs. When the elders wife found out, she interrogated me over it, said the owner was doing it to test me and I'd let Jah down. I had to go away and read several articles on birthdays and pray about it. She made me grovel and threatened to go to the elders but let me off as it was my first offense. F8ck me she was a b1tch. Everyone hated her in the shop.

    I'd prefer not to hire a JW - just too many years of watching JW's waste time and being experts at doing things for show.

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