Would you NOT hire a JW because they're a JW?

by Open mind 53 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  LongHairGal

  I would only hire someone like me who worked their whole life to support themselves. A JW who is a responsible member of the workforce generally isn't any worse than anybody else. If you get the other kind, however, there can be big problems.

  Let me explain: if you get a super-zealous, irresponsible JW who is the type not really dedicated to the workforce and who doesn't care if they get fired or not (because they REALLY don't want to work), there may be a problem for an employer. This type of JW will break a confidence in a heartbeat and reveal things to the elders in the religion (because they think that being a good little tattle-tale is pleasing Jehovah ooops - I mean the organization). This can cause an employer to be sued. These types of JWs have no sense of responsibility to a secular employer because their loyalty is to the religion. This cannot be underestimated and is not an exaggeration.

  They are mindless and heedless of any trouble they cause for an employer and will start World War III. Like a person who causes a traffic accident for others and who escapes unharmed, they will leave a disaster in their wake and it will not concern them in the least.

  [However, this doesn't address what may happen if a person becomes a JW AFTER they start working somewhere. Hopefully, they won't check their brains at the door and they will continue to be responsible.]
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  restrangled

  My dad left me with some great words of wisdom:

  "Never do business with family, friends or JW's."......nuff said.

  r.
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  cantleave

  It would depend on their qualifications and experience. If they were the best candidate for the role I would hire them. If they wanted "special" T&C's, that were not compatible with the business I would not employ them.
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  Robdar

  I would not knowingly hire a JW.
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  doublelife

  One of Lady Lee's questions: "would they refrain from shunning other employees or customers if they knew they were no longer a JW"

  This is a very good question.

  When I was 17 I worked as a cashier in a store and a df'd person came in. It was so awkward for me. I had to check her out but I didn't greet her or smile at her. The whole time I was trying to figure out how I could say only what I needed to say to get the transaction done without any of my co-workers noticing that I was acting differently. I didn't want to have to explain to anyone that I was suppose to be shunning her. This would be a hard question for any jw to answer and they've probably never thought of a scenario like mine happening. I never did and was caught off guard and didn't know what to do.
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  blondie

  Question: is this a jw I have known in the past or a person unknown to me who happens to be a jw?
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  Married to the Mob

  I would hire a dub or anyone else but its on the following basis

  A) Are you competant to do the job

  B) Will you do the job.

  C) Do you have the appropriate experience

  D) Are you pro-active

  E) Will you fit in (i.e leave religion and problems at the door)

  In return you get a fair wage and reasonableness!

  I used to have a guy who worked for me called Pete. I didn't hire him, human remains did, but he seemed bright enough. Pete came from a big RC family and was very religious. Whilst Pete was more than capable of doing the job, it soon became apparent after he joined me that he just wasn't willing. For example he wanted to work from 6am till 2pm when my office worked mandatory core hours of 10-4. He didn't want to work in central london but at the workshop because it took him longer to get to the office than the worskshop.

  In addition to this he kept sprouting of his religious view point which didn't go over to greatly, and I think was probably tormenting him as the corporate sale girls were over the corridor in their short little business suits and heels!

  Oh and the clothing! In a professional public facing office, dressing like your going to a death metal concert is NOT appropriate! Next day he turned up wearing a bandana and after a quiet word we managed to get him into a office shirt! Needless to say he didn't meet any of the clients!

  The final straw was him comming and asking for more money after 2 weeks! Needless to say Pete after that request was given the choice to either do his job or leave. He made the right choice and he didn't do anymore work for us!
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  Scarred for life

  I can't say that I would never hire a dub. But it would be a negative when making a hiring decision. They would have to have excellent and valid references, excellent experience, and they could not talk about their religion or their problems. I can see possibly hiring one as a housekeeper or some kind of project for the house. But they'd really have to convince me that they could do the job and be professional.
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  willyloman

  Wow, this is hardly the kind of talk you hear at the meetings, assemblies, and in WT literature concerning JW employees. They always give the impression that JW employees are highly prized by their bosses for having such an excellent work ethic.

  I ran a small business (less than 40 employees) for an absentee owner (not a dub). At first, I hired dubs to work for me when there was an opening, because of the above-cited WT legend perpetuated by the literature. I soon found out there was a huge discrepancy between legend and fact.

  After cycling through three disappointing dub employees in the space of four years, I never hired another one again.
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  OnTheWayOut

  So they cannot be trusted with confidential information should their work require them to have such information regarding other JW's such as patients, coworkers, or customers.

  As far as hiring them in the capacity to care for others, such as children or elderly, they will feel free to scoff at science and society and politics and tell them about "their hope."
  
  They feel it's their right to recruit during work.

  They won't necessarily be cordial to well-wishing about holidays and birthdays concerning coworkers, patients, customers. Even if that isn't a big problem, they might not fit in well with the team mentality at work because of it. Even your typical Jew or Muslim can wish the Christians well in their celebrations or vice versa.

  They will leave you high and dry if you need them at times that conflict with "theocratic" activity. They may even quit rather than miss out on a C.O. visit or District Convention.

  The guilt factor of the WTS might actually cause them to do their meeting study instead of working.

  We (arguably) know that there is something interfering with their critical thinking processes.

  Their WTS literature claims them to be so moral and hardworking, but they really are just like other employees.

  Faders have to watch out what they say around them. The JW employee may take advantage of the JW boss, as mentioned, but the faded JW boss could get that "confidential information" problem thrown in his/her face until relatives are told to shun them.