Anyone going to the TEA PARTY Tommorow?

by Cagefighter 106 Replies latest jw friends

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    JW - the discussion was relevant to the responses regardless of whether or not they were attached to the tea party. I realize the party is trying to stop the infighting and change it's image..

    Here is a bit of blog from Thom Hartman on the issue. sammieswife.

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    Thom's blog The Banksters...Orwell would be proud! It's been reported that 25 Wall Street banksters, most of them hedge fund managers, had a private meeting Thursday with two powerful Republican lawmakers: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and John Cornyn, the senior senator who heads the National Republican Senatorial Committee, one of the primary fundraising arms of the Republican Party. McConnell then called a press conference and lied that re-regulation of the banksters would lead to another "too big to fail" bailout, even though the regulation explicitly forbids future bailouts. The Frank Luntz inspired McConnell-Bankster calculation is the Americans are really uninformed, and the tea partiers can be turned into shills for the biggest corporations and the millionaires and billionaires who run them. Are they right? Orwell would be proud!
  • JWoods
    JWoods

    JW - the discussion was relevant to the responses regardless of whether or not they were attached to the tea party.

    OK, so it is relevant on a tea party thread whether or not it has anything to do with the tea party. And now you have added something about Republican Bankers.

    Perfectly clear.

    Perfectly.

  • mindmelda
    mindmelda

    You know, if Palin had actually paid attention in that Constitution class she went to instead of ratting her beehive up and winking at the professor, she might have gotten the point that the Constitution was written to allow for change by majority vote.

    It's called "democracy"...look it up.

  • beksbks
    beksbks

    Cagefighter, are you equally angry that those who are buying a house get to deduct the interest from their income, thus lowering their tax burden? Paving the way to itemize deductions for all kinds of things including cleaning out the garage and donating the junk?

    Were you angry when everyone who makes under 75k recieved a rebate check in '08? What if you made 80k, then would it have made you mad?

  • mindmelda
    mindmelda

    Gee, I understood that article about the banking industry hedge fund managers and others meeting with Republicans in their national financing committee. They're worried that they'll lose control of their minions now that they've armed them with torches and pitchforks. That has a nasty way of happening, so I can sympathize.

    Most of the Republicans I know are nice reasonable people who roll their eyes at the tea baggers. They're tired of looking like moralistic morons and idiots who can't spell parroting the likes of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, who are no doubt so concerned about their listeners taxes and finances that they are crying all the way to the bank about it. Don't be on our side...you're making us look stupid is their thinking on the matter.

    Well, I can see why Glenn Beck would be protesting taxes...he made around 35 million bucks last year, and probably got the crap taxed out of it, as he's in that upper stratosphere tax bracket that had their taxes restored to Clinton era rates. Too bad he doesn't care enough to show up in his tricorn hat and breeches himself.

    Several Republicans I'm friends or who are close family members with are atheists or agnostics who have no idea why Republicans have become the epitome of "vote your religion" because they despise that.

    Some of them are seriously thinking about joining the Libertarian movement, one of my brother in laws, an accountant and business manager, investor already has.

  • misocup
    misocup
    What they resent is a deliberate socialist welfare state.

    You mean a deliberate socialist corporate/banking welfare state?

    Besides, that's what happens when you deliberately send good paying jobs to other countries, keep U.S. wages deliberately low, deliberately up the unemployment to 10% or more, and deliberately give all the money to big business. Remember, for the past several years, the only job sector that steadily increased was the "service" sector. How much do you think that pays? Now we have 50% of the population earning less than 51K per year. That's why they don't pay taxes! That's why they need financial help!

    In the last 50 years:

    Republican president - 29 years

    Democratic president - 21 years

    Biggest tax increase in history - Reagan (republican)

    Socialist bailouts for the rich - Reagan/Bush 1980's, Bush Jr. 2nd term

    Cost of socialist bailout for rich - over .5 trillion, 1.7 trillion respectively

    Cost of illegal Iraq war - 800 billion and counting

    War profiteering - Bush/Cheney through (at least) Halliburton

    Corporations that pay taxes - almost NONE http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1249465620080812

    It comes from Princeton political scientist Larry Bartels' new book, soon to be released. What it shows is the difference that the President's party affiliation makes to the distribution of income during the four years of the president's term. (The distributional outcomes are shown with one year's lag.) When a Republican president is in power, people at the top of the income distribution experience much larger real income gains than those at the bottom--a difference of 1.5 percent per year going from the bottom to the top quintile in the income distribution. The situation is reversed when a Democrat is in power: those who benefit the most are the lower income groups. If you are in the bottom quintile, the difference between having a Democratic or a Republican president in office is an income gain (or loss) of more than 2 percent per year! Strikingly, compared to Republicans, Democratic presidents generate higher income gains for all income groups (although the difference is statistically significant only for lower income groups). http://rodrik.typepad.com/dani_rodriks_weblog/2008/03/american-politi.html
    The key question is why are some people immune to facts? http://rodrik.typepad.com/dani_rodriks_weblog/2008/03/american-politi.html

    Given their republican leanings, a conclusion can be drawn that the Tea Partiers are for concentrating the wealth to the top one percent. Since the middle class is near extinct, and over 50% of Americans don't earn enough to pay taxes, and the super rich insulate themselves from taxes. That leaves very few people paying taxes. Given the facts set out in the quoted paragraph above, voting Democrat is the only way to spread the wealth so that people earn enough to pay their share.

    Don't Tea Partiers want those in the lower income tax brackets to earn a fair wage?

    Do Tea Partiers want the very rich to bleed the rest of us dry?

    Why is the battle cry "repeal everything" the Obama administration has done?

    Do they really want to go back to the point we were at when Bush left office? Nearly destroyed?

    What is it -really- about the left and Obama they hate so much?

    Is there a "high degree of correlation between ideological blindness and political conservativism. "

    When they talk about liberty and personal freedom, why is it only in relation to money?

    Do they want to pay for their own roads and policemen?

    Will they all please move to a deserted island?

  • MsDucky
    MsDucky

    The "Coffee Party" has been protesting against the "Tea Party". I just heard of the "Coffee Party" in the news yesterday.

    COFFEE PARTY MISSION STATEMENT: The Coffee Party Movement gives voice to Americans who want to see cooperation in government. We recognize that the federal government is not the enemy of the people, but the expression of our collective will, and that we must participate in the democratic process in order to address the challenges that we face as Americans. As voters and grassroots volunteers, we will support leaders who work toward positive solutions, and hold accountable ...

    http://coffeepartyusa.com/

  • gubberningbody
    gubberningbody

    Are we still trying to teach pigs how to sing?

  • mindmelda
    mindmelda

    I'll have a cup of coffee please. *G*

  • straightshooter
    straightshooter

    I had to miss it because I had to make a living for my family.

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