Yes, there have been whackos that have used terror in an attempt to drive their agenda. However, no group has engaged in this more, and perfected it better than Muslims. To deny this fact, is to deny reality. I will not play some game in which you have your view of history and I have mine. The fact is that the IRA is NOT flying jets into buildings. The Chinese are NOT strapping dynamite to themselves and detonating on a crowded bus or in a crowded pizza parlor. The Africans are NOT filling SUVs full of fertilizer and attmpting to explode it in the middle one of the most densely populated cities in the world. So if you wish to continue on down this road of self-deception that you have created for yourself, then so be it, but there are thinking people that will not join you in that folly.
Initial Analysis Of The Times Square Bombing Attempt
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BurnTheShips
MSNBC Host Disappointed That Suspect is Not a Right-Wing Nutjob
Poor thing, she must have been hoping it was a domestic white guy.
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notverylikely
Yes, there have been whackos that have used terror in an attempt to drive their agenda. However, no group has engaged in this more, and perfected it better than Muslims.
Do you have any empirical data to back that up?
To deny this fact, is to deny reality.
It hasn't been established as fact yet.
I will not play some game in which you have your view of history and I have mine.
I know, reading books and learning is tough. I can't blame you for not trying.
The fact is that the IRA is NOT flying jets into buildings.
They don't even really exist anymore, so...I hope not. They did explode hundreds of bombs in one of the most densely packed cities in the world....
The Chinese are NOT strapping dynamite to themselves and detonating on a crowded bus or in a crowded pizza parlor.
The Africans are NOT filling SUVs full of fertilizer and attmpting to explode it in the middle one of the most densely populated cities in the world.
Just hacking millions to death with machetes...
Just flooding subways with poison gas....
So if you wish to continue on down this road of self-deception that you have created for yourself, then so be it, but there are thinking people that will not join you in that folly.
What exactly do you think I beleive? How do you think I am deceiving myself, again? Most people think, but there are large amounts that don't know why they think what they do and are capable of the critical thinking required to arrive at a sound conclusion or do anything but throw a hissy fit. For all you know, I might agree with you. Too bad you didn't stop to ask, but rather just ranted, stomped your feet and stuck your fingers in your ears rather than listen or think...
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notverylikely
MSNBC Host Disappointed That Suspect is Not a Right-Wing Nutjob
What she said was she was hoping he didn't have ties to Islam or the middle east so people wouldn't sterotype ALL muslims or ALL brown people from the middle east, not that she was disappointed it wasn't a right wing white guy.
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notverylikely
Find me a group that can top that, and I'll mail you the prize.
This is the last two months alone, by the way. I'd post a decade's worth, but it won't fit.
Sure. Take your time and be sure to normalize the data for war zones (Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia) , border disputes (Pakistan), Muslim on Muslim crime (several are "murders" without any cause listed in the list) and any other reasons not related and we can talk.
But, hey, if we are just talking about how many people have been killed by an agressive peoples, sure, I can top the list:
United States killed millions of native americans via intentional disease, invasion, torture and murder. Or I suppose I could top it with the roughly 4 Million slaves the US had.....how are we defining terrorism to make the list ONLY includes those acts?
So, what do I win?
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BurnTheShips
United States killed millions of native americans via intentional disease, invasion, torture and murde
Old news. More than 100 years ago. Fact is, wherever you find Muslims around non-Muslims, crap gets blown up around innocent bystanders.
The facts can fall on your face, wriggle, and take a dump, but you won't see the truth in front of your eyes.
The fact is that the IRA is NOT flying jets into buildings. The Chinese are NOT strapping dynamite to themselves and detonating on a crowded bus or in a crowded pizza parlor. The Africans are NOT filling SUVs full of fertilizer and attmpting to explode it in the middle one of the most densely populated cities in the world. So if you wish to continue on down this road of self-deception that you have created for yourself, then so be it, but there are thinking people that will not join you in that folly.
Islam has bloody borders. It isn't limited to one theater of war, one continent, one country, one race, or one ethnicity.
If you are non-Muslim, be it Jewish, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, Pagan, whatever, their religion gives you three choices:
Convert, submit, or die.
Actually, you only get the "submit" option (in theory) if you are Christian or Jewish. Otherwise, it's convert or die.
Islam is a great game for splodeydopes. White, black, brown, yellow, they all can-and do-play. There is only one common denominator: Mohammed (feces be upon him) and his spooky book.
You've completely internalized the reflexive liberal PC bullshit.
I am reality-based.
But please, I am looking forward to your future Islamic apologetics. So do carry on.
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notverylikely
Old news. More than 100 years ago. Fact is, wherever you find Muslims around non-Muslims, crap gets blown up around innocent bystanders.
Ah, so you are using the Watchtower style of news reporting....whatever is happening right now is the worst thing ever because it's happening right now. Gotcha. I am sure the millions of people that died would support your sentiment. So how long before 9/11 is old news?
The facts can fall on your face, wriggle, and take a dump, but you won't see the truth in front of your eyes.
You mean the ones you asked for and then dismiss because they don't fit your narrative? How very watchtower of you....
Islam has bloody borders. It isn't limited to one theater of war, one continent, one country, or one ethnicity.
You've completely internalized the reflexive liberal PC bullshit.
Actually, you're completely wrong. I've done work with SOCOMM on the tech for communications in Iraq and Afghanistan, I am all for profiling and more extensive searches in airports. I just have to laugh at when people say ignorant things with no concept of history and then foam at the mouth when they think they might hear something that contradicts the "skeery muslin brown people are skeery!" idea. In fact, there are hundreds thousands of Muslims, Iranians, Afghanis, and other "brown" people that are helping everyone here.
I am reality-based.
But please, I am looking forward to your future Islamic apologetics. So do carry on.
Clearly not. As I said before, you and the people I run into aren't reality based, you are narrative based. Asking questions and checking facts just ain't something you do (or, I suspect, know how to do). I am by no means an apologist for Islam. The radical and fundamentalist elements in that religion have caused at least as many problems in the world as more Jesusy/Jehovah based religions. But, you know, since the Jesusy/Jehovah based religions aren't causing problems RIGHT NOW you think they never have.
Your grasp on reality is tenuous at best.
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BurnTheShips
So how long before 9/11 is old news?
9/11 is only the most successful in a long string. It will be old news once there is no more global jihad.
You will make a good dhimmi. I suspect you will even be pleased when you have to go pay the jizya.
The Religion of Pieces needs useful idiots like you.
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notverylikely
9/11 is only the most successful in a long string. It will be old news once there is no more global jihad.
You will make a good dhimmi. I suspect you will even be pleased when you have to go pay the jizya.
Actually, I doubt I'll live seeing as how I am Jew. But, since you are just making stuff up, I ain't exactly worried about it.
Besides which, us Jews have much much longer history of genocide and killing off rivals than the Muslims. Those kids ain't even wet behind the ears yet. And you whiteys....pfff. You don't even know what religious war is.
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BurnTheShips
Besides which, us Jews have much much longer history of genocide and killing off rivals than the Muslims.
That was 2000 years ago and more, you self-loathing Jew.
You are probably of the kind that would have apologized for holding up the Gestapo as they herded you into a rail car. *spit*
There is no moral equivalence here. We've all got some nastiness in our ancestry. Islamic terrorism is here and now.
The fact is, I am not worried about Jews doing anything these days. What they have done, is ancient history. I happen to have a lot of Jewish friends and family, incidentally. None of them are delusional like you.
Those kids ain't even wet behind the ears yet. And you whiteys....pfff. You don't even know what religious war is.
I am not considered "white" in this country.
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